Mercy call with sedond pair?

hemstock · #1 09-06-2005, 01:31 PM

PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero?

I'm getting 11.5 on a call.
Should I call or fold? Or shouldn't I bet the flop and the turn in the first place?

Aaron W. · #2 09-06-2005, 01:35 PM

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PokerStars 0.50/1.00 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
Hero calls, 4 folds, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (6 SB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (6 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button calls, SB calls, BB calls.

Turn: (5.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (5 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, BB calls.

River: (9.50 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB folds, BB calls, Hero?

I'm getting 11.5 on a call.
Should I call or fold? Or shouldn't I bet the flop and the turn in the first place?

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With half the field left behind you, don't bet the flop. When you get called by 5 players, don't bet the turn.

I think you need to turn down the postflop aggression level a notch.

Hojglad · #3 09-06-2005, 01:35 PM

Call. So many people bet when checked to with total air that it's ridiculous. I agree with Aaron's sentiments here - you need to be checkraising this flop, not betting into a field of 8.4 billion.

Aaron W. · #4 09-06-2005, 02:29 PM

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Call. So many people bet when checked to with total air that it's ridiculous. I agree with Aaron's sentiments here - you need to be checkraising this flop, not betting into a field of 8.4 billion.

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I didn't say check-raise. I just said check.

Hojglad · #5 09-06-2005, 02:30 PM

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Call. So many people bet when checked to with total air that it's ridiculous. I agree with Aaron's sentiments here - you need to be checkraising this flop, not betting into a field of 8.4 billion.

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I didn't say check-raise. I just said check.

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I know - I didn't mean to imply that you did. Sorry about that. The check-raise is my preference here, so long as the bet comes from pretty much the CO or button.

adsman · #6 09-06-2005, 01:36 PM

Raise preflop. Seriously. Then the hand might play a little different.

Bodhi · #7 09-06-2005, 01:50 PM

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Raise preflop. Seriously.

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hemstock · #8 09-06-2005, 01:51 PM

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Raise preflop. Seriously.

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I love 2 word quotes

jrz1972 · #9 09-06-2005, 01:55 PM

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Raise preflop. Seriously.

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J. Stew · #10 09-06-2005, 02:45 PM

What's wrong with encouraging limpers with a hand that does well multi-way?