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Old 06-24-2005, 08:05 PM
Psyonic Psyonic is offline
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Default Re: 500BB loss possible due to chance? PT stats included

Here are some KK hands:

Heres a bad loss:
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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (13 SB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, UTG+1 calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

And another:

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB calls, BB calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (12 SB) K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets</font>, CO folds, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (8.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, SB calls.

River: (12.50 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 14.50 BB

And heres my biggest win:

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (9 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP1 calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, MP1 calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

River: (8.75 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, MP1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG calls, MP1 calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB
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Old 06-24-2005, 08:26 PM
SteveL91 SteveL91 is offline
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Default Re: 500BB loss possible due to chance? PT stats included

In hand one, you should have folded to the first PF raise. You're not going to see many 2/4 players raising light enough in EP that you can be the first cold-caller. After that, you're way too aggressive without a good reason to be. I'm guessing you get tunnel vision and don't stop to think about the other player's actions and what they might mean. UTG+1 caps PF.... and plays that way post-flop. You're likely against KK.

Hand 2 is fine pre-flop, but I think you should have raised the flop and gone from there.

I'm not sure about betting into the field on hand 3; three other players is my line in the sand where I'd be more inclined to check. The board is ragged enough that I don't particularly mind betting this flop. I don't think betting the turn is worthwhile.
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