JJ...decisions

WalkAmongUs · #1 11-23-2005, 08:42 AM

Villain was 55/20/3.5

How was this hand played?

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Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, UTG+2 calls, Hero 3-bets, MP2 calls, 5 folds, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Flop: (13.50 SB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (4 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero raises, MP2 folds, UTG+1 3-bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero caps, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls.

Is flop cap here recommended?

Turn: (12.75 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 calls, Hero calls.

River: (15.75 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
UTG+1 bets, UTG+2 folds, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.75 BB

@bsolute_luck · #2 11-23-2005, 08:54 AM

that dude's a maniac (if i read his stats correctly).

i think i'd put in 1 more on the turn. i'm not giving credit for a set given those stats.

#3 11-23-2005, 08:55 AM

I think you have to cap the flop. I think you played this hand well and did not wimp out.

#4 11-23-2005, 08:57 AM

We will have to see what the concensus is but I like the cap on the flop. Given your LAG read on UTG+1, I don't see any reason to slow down. UTG+2 seems on a flush draw so the extra money helps pad the pot.

Absent the club on the turn I think a raise would have been alright on the turn as well. Sure LAG-boy gets dealt AA, KK, and QQ just as much as anybody else and he could even have A5 but against this kind of player, in this type of situation, you can make a lot of money.

The Ace on the river sucked because Villian easily has an Ace so just call (as you did).

#5 11-23-2005, 09:01 AM

The flop cap is good. Villian is uber loose-aggressive, You have an overpair and BDFD (althoug a weak one).

I do not like UTG+2 in all of this. Any reads on him? I'm not sure why he is hanging in there. Because he is overcalling I would play the turn and the river the same (flame me!)

#6 11-23-2005, 09:15 AM

Grunch:

I'm only cold calling pf with JJ - even at a loose table.

I think I raise on the flop, but probably only call the 3 bet.

I raise again on the turn, but fold a 3 bet. The A on the riv is a puking call card.

All in all, I think you were too aggressive early, and a little passive late. 2 callers to a turn raise is the missing defining moment for this hand.

#7 11-23-2005, 09:21 AM

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that dude's a maniac (if i read his stats correctly).

i think i'd put in 1 more on the turn. i'm not giving credit for a set given those stats.

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This may also give you the option of a cheap showdown when the A falls on the river.

@bsolute_luck · #8 11-23-2005, 09:25 AM

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I'm only cold calling pf with JJ - even at a loose table.

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jrz1972 · #9 11-23-2005, 09:28 AM

Looks fine to me. Capping the flop is normal against this kind of opponent, especially considering he didn't cap preflop (suggesting he doesn't have a bigger overpair).

Raising the turn is a possibility. You would not do this against an unknown, but this particular villain obviously overplays his hands. If it were HU I would not raise since I'd be risking two bets to win one (assuming villain slows down with the stuff I beat while 3-betting the stuff that beats me). With the limper, who is likely drawing, trapped between us, the raise is more tempting. It's close and I'm fine with a call down.

The river is obvious. You have to show this hand down.

jrz1972 · #10 11-23-2005, 09:30 AM

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that dude's a maniac (if i read his stats correctly).

i think i'd put in 1 more on the turn. i'm not giving credit for a set given those stats.

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This may also give you the option of a cheap showdown when the A falls on the river.

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This particular villain doesn't seem like the sort you want to try this against. You're often getting 3-bet, and I don't think you can fold to it against this guy.