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Old 09-16-2005, 10:14 AM
Wolf101 Wolf101 is offline
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Default $5.50 - Pretty bad play with QQ

Villain bluffed twice early in the tourney ($5.50) and got caught both times, it almost put him out both times. PF raising was non existant the whole tourney. Still, I didn't bet enough...should I have pushed on the flop? The paired board had me a little concerned.

PokerStars Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (100/200)
Seat #9 is the button
Seat 3: Villain (6185 in chips)
Seat 8: Hero (1980 in chips)
Seat 9: Bystander (5335 in chips)
Villain: posts small blind 100
Hero: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero[Qh Qs]
Bystander: folds
Villian: raises 200 to 400
Hero: raises 200 to 600
Villain: calls 200
*** FLOP *** [5h 5s 7d]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 400
Villain: calls 400
*** TURN *** [5h 5s 7d] [8s]
Villain: checks
Hero: bets 400
Villain: calls 400
*** RIVER *** [5h 5s 7d 8s] [Kc]
Villain: checks
Hero: checks

Results in white below

<font color="white">
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Villain: shows [3h Kd] (two pair, Kings and Fives)
Hero: mucks hand
Villain collected 2800 from pot

</font>

I stink.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:17 AM
pergesu pergesu is offline
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Default Re: Pretty bad play with QQ

Why on earth didn't you just push preflop?
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:17 AM
Nicholasp27 Nicholasp27 is offline
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Default Re: Pretty bad play with QQ

you had &lt;10bbs, so you shoulda just pushed pf...

but since you didn't, i woulda bet more than 1/3 pot on the flop (woulda pushed here if not pf)and more than 1/5 pot on turn(woulda pushed here if still hadn't)...he still didn't have the odds to call you, but he had 6200 chips to your 2k chips, so he was fine to call 400 at a time in order to have a chance to knock you out...and as the pot grew larger, he had more and more reason to pay another 400...

chances are he was gonna follow you no matter how big you bet, but i think you had better odds of him folding if you bet bigger and wouldn't have given him implied odds if u pushed earlier...and if u pushed pf, he very well may have folded
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:18 AM
tshort tshort is offline
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Default Re: Pretty bad play with QQ

I would raise more pre-flop. You would then have to go all-in on flop.

Looks like a bad beat, though.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:27 AM
Wolf101 Wolf101 is offline
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Default Re: Pretty bad play with QQ

I didn't push pre-flop because these guys would instantly fold. I attempted it twice a few hands earlier, once was a (semi?)bluff with AJ and again with TT. Instant folds.

I wanted some action and unfortunately, I got it.

Looking at it now in the light of day I see how stupid it was not to just push the flop.
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Old 09-16-2005, 10:30 AM
durron597 durron597 is offline
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Default Re: Pretty bad play with QQ

Push preflop, since you didn't, push on the flop, since you didn't, push on the turn. The river is the only correctly played street in this hand, IMO.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:39 PM
Oluwafemi Oluwafemi is offline
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Default Re: $5.50 - Pretty bad play with QQ

preflop: raise to 630, if villain reraises, reraise all-in.
on the flop: if villain calls, all-in the flop. you're ITM with a big pair, don't be afraid of a paired board with low cards unless you limped with Q Q trying to be cute.
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Old 09-16-2005, 06:43 PM
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Default Re: $5.50 - Pretty bad play with QQ

Decent rule: with less than 10x BB, you're happy to pick up the blinds, so make all your raises pushes. With a minraise before you, this rule probably extends to 15x BB or so.
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