Again, second nuts who pays of f ?

Mig · #1 08-24-2005, 04:48 PM

Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 3 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG raises, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].

Again... It seems to always happens this week I have K flush high or Q flush high ( the second nuts) and I get check raised on the turn... Does anyone call down ?

Vilain has passive stats ... If vilain is unknow would your answer change ?

kahntrutahn · #2 08-24-2005, 04:55 PM

I raise/bet river if called... call down a cap

synbad13 · #3 08-24-2005, 05:16 PM

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I raise/bet river if called... call down a cap

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I think that this line is too agressive. But you definately call down. In a 6-handed game, even with a passive player, he could C/R you without the Ah (unless your read is pin point, you can't consider folding). Then you will call the river also.

If he checks the river, I think I would bet also.

meow_meow · #4 08-24-2005, 04:55 PM

Just to be pedantic, that's actually the 5th best possible hand, or the 3rd given your holdings.

Call down.

Mig · #5 08-24-2005, 04:59 PM

yah I know but you really think a passive player raise J7s ? I don't know a lot of them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SGS · #6 08-24-2005, 05:12 PM

I am definately not folding.

SGS

#7 08-24-2005, 05:19 PM

It kills me to fold here. He's obviously not holding JQ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and J7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] doesn't merit calling a 3-bet PF.

What I would do? 3-bet turn. Then bang my head against the wall if he flips A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Leak in my game? Probably.

whodaman · #8 08-24-2005, 05:45 PM

call down

wheelz · #9 08-24-2005, 05:46 PM

I can't fold this against almost anyone

Mig · #10 08-24-2005, 05:56 PM

That guy was 0.4 aggro on the turn I don't think he raise less than the nuts...