Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.75 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, Hero [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img].



Again... It seems to always happens this week I have K flush high or Q flush high ( the second nuts) and I get check raised on the turn... Does anyone call down ?

Vilain has passive stats ... If vilain is unknow would your answer change ?

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

I raise/bet river if called... call down a cap

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

Just to be pedantic, that's actually the 5th best possible hand, or the 3rd given your holdings.

Call down.

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

yah I know but you really think a passive player raise J7s ? I don't know a lot of them [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

I am definately not folding.

SGS

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

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I raise/bet river if called... call down a cap

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I think that this line is too agressive. But you definately call down. In a 6-handed game, even with a passive player, he could C/R you without the Ah (unless your read is pin point, you can't consider folding). Then you will call the river also.

If he checks the river, I think I would bet also.

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

It kills me to fold here. He's obviously not holding JQ[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], and J7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] doesn't merit calling a 3-bet PF.

What I would do? 3-bet turn. Then bang my head against the wall if he flips A[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].

Leak in my game? Probably.

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

call down

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

I can't fold this against almost anyone

Re: Again, second nuts who pays of f ?
 

That guy was 0.4 aggro on the turn I don't think he raise less than the nuts...