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Old 05-24-2005, 03:14 PM
maldini maldini is offline
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Default is this angle shoot inappropriate?

im in a small stakes MTT home game. i only know the host who was not at my table.

3 to the flop. im in the SB:
checked to the LP who makes a stab. i think he's weak and i have 4 to the str8 and want to see another card or 2. im worried about the player in between b/c though he never raises, he calls with any piece or draw if there is no one acting strongly. anyway, i hold my call in one hand and a stack of chips in the other, i say "call and raise $2k". they inform me that i can only call since i announce call. this is what im hoping for.
the turn doesnt help me so i check, hoping they think i intend to check raise. it checks around. the river doesnt help me so i make a bet that looks like i want a call. they fold.

is this immoral, unethical or just plain uncool in anyway?

seems ok to me.

i dont think i really want a discussion of whether i could have raised or just called instead of this angle play. i'm leaving out alot for the sake of brevity.

thanks.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:15 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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By calling it an angle shoot you already know the answer.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:16 PM
Qwijibo Qwijibo is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

I think it's great. This is no worse than threateningly stacking your chips while your opponent is considering his move.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:34 PM
maldini maldini is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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By calling it an angle shoot you already know the answer.

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you may be giving me too much credit here. i thought that was merely what these maneuvers were called, not a disparaging term.
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:53 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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i thought that was merely what these maneuvers were called, not a disparaging term.

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It is what those maneuvers are called and they are generally frowned upon. Particuarly in a home gmae you do not want to do anything that might be considered offensive by anyone as you might not be invited back. In a casino all rulings go against (or should with competant floor) the angler shooter because a very common source of a gaming irregularity that requires to floor is an angleshooter has caused some confusion, so he is to bear the penalty of a decision (usually by the nature of a decision one player is made happy and one player is made upset).
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Old 05-24-2005, 03:59 PM
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

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is this immoral, unethical or just plain uncool in anyway?

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all three.
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Old 05-24-2005, 05:12 PM
Derek in NYC Derek in NYC is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

I like it.
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Old 05-24-2005, 05:27 PM
The13atman The13atman is offline
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Default Re: is this angle shoot inappropriate?

This is the "classic example" of angle shooting, and yes, most (including myself) would find it inappropriate.
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:42 PM
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By calling it an angle shoot you already know the answer.

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Can't be said any better.
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Old 05-24-2005, 06:51 PM
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CHEATER
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