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Old 10-25-2005, 10:27 PM
J-Lo J-Lo is offline
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Default $55- tough trips situation

Is there a better line? Should i fold on flop? Is this an EASY fold? No real reads... the play is so strange.

***** Hand History for Game 2931791907 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16880326 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, October 25, 22:10:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 68396 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: WHITEBRED ( $855 )
Seat 2: TrumpWSOP ( $1065 )
Seat 3: FRANKWHITEE ( $790 )
Seat 4: stormsptr ( $975 )
Seat 5: thesitck ( $785 )
Seat 6: CRUSSH ( $1045 )
Seat 7: chnkylover57 ( $970 )
Seat 8: WizeGuyRob ( $1025 )
Seat 9: tpusha479 ( $1350 )
Seat 10: samsam999 ( $1140 )
Trny:16880326 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chnkylover57 [ 8h Js ]
WizeGuyRob folds.
tpusha479 folds.
samsam999 folds.
WHITEBRED calls [30].
TrumpWSOP folds.
FRANKWHITEE folds.
stormsptr calls [30].
thesitck calls [30].
CRUSSH calls [15].
chnkylover57 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Qh, Jc ]
CRUSSH checks.
chnkylover57 bets [100].
WHITEBRED raises [200].
stormsptr folds.
thesitck folds.
CRUSSH folds.
chnkylover57 calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
chnkylover57 checks.
WHITEBRED is all-In [625]
chnkylover57 folds.
WHITEBRED does not show cards.
WHITEBRED wins 1175 chips
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:30 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

I call.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

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I call.

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Old 10-26-2005, 04:53 AM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

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I call.

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Old 10-25-2005, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

Not a terrible fold by any means, but i like 3 bet pushing the flop.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:36 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

I agree with both parts. I still call, but don't think the fold is terrible, and I'd rather 3-bet push the flop.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:47 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

The problem with 3 bet pushing the flop is that your opponent will only call with hands that beat you but not call you with a queen. The only hands better than you that fold are MAYBE j9 and j10.
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Old 10-25-2005, 10:54 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

Lots of times Q will call. People love to think you are bluffing. If he has a Jack most likely we're both getting our money in there. If he could have a very good draw here. Let him either overpay for it or fold and I'll just take the pot.

I don't think OPs line is too bad though, especially if he calls.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:36 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

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The problem with 3 bet pushing the flop is that your opponent will only call with hands that beat you but not call you with a queen. The only hands better than you that fold are MAYBE j9 and j10.

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this is just weak tight jibberish.
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Old 10-25-2005, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: $55- tough trips situation

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The problem with 3 bet pushing the flop is that your opponent will only call with hands that beat you but not call you with a queen. The only hands better than you that fold are MAYBE j9 and j10.

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this is just weak tight jibberish.

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No, it's smart. Three-betting the flop is going to make him fold a lot of hands that you want calling, so you miss out on lots of value, such as those times he interprets your call as weakness and pushes the turn.
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