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J-Lo 10-25-2005 10:27 PM

$55- tough trips situation
 
Is there a better line? Should i fold on flop? Is this an EASY fold? No real reads... the play is so strange.

***** Hand History for Game 2931791907 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:16880326 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Tuesday, October 25, 22:10:59 EDT 2005
Table Table 68396 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: WHITEBRED ( $855 )
Seat 2: TrumpWSOP ( $1065 )
Seat 3: FRANKWHITEE ( $790 )
Seat 4: stormsptr ( $975 )
Seat 5: thesitck ( $785 )
Seat 6: CRUSSH ( $1045 )
Seat 7: chnkylover57 ( $970 )
Seat 8: WizeGuyRob ( $1025 )
Seat 9: tpusha479 ( $1350 )
Seat 10: samsam999 ( $1140 )
Trny:16880326 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to chnkylover57 [ 8h Js ]
WizeGuyRob folds.
tpusha479 folds.
samsam999 folds.
WHITEBRED calls [30].
TrumpWSOP folds.
FRANKWHITEE folds.
stormsptr calls [30].
thesitck calls [30].
CRUSSH calls [15].
chnkylover57 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Qh, Jc ]
CRUSSH checks.
chnkylover57 bets [100].
WHITEBRED raises [200].
stormsptr folds.
thesitck folds.
CRUSSH folds.
chnkylover57 calls [100].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 4c ]
chnkylover57 checks.
WHITEBRED is all-In [625]
chnkylover57 folds.
WHITEBRED does not show cards.
WHITEBRED wins 1175 chips

microbet 10-25-2005 10:30 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
I call.

johnnybeef 10-25-2005 10:31 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
Not a terrible fold by any means, but i like 3 bet pushing the flop.

microbet 10-25-2005 10:36 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
I agree with both parts. I still call, but don't think the fold is terrible, and I'd rather 3-bet push the flop.

KingDan 10-25-2005 10:36 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
[ QUOTE ]
I call.

[/ QUOTE ]

Double Down 10-25-2005 10:47 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
The problem with 3 bet pushing the flop is that your opponent will only call with hands that beat you but not call you with a queen. The only hands better than you that fold are MAYBE j9 and j10.

pergesu 10-25-2005 10:52 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
A very bad player is going to push because he's excited he has trips. A solid player will push with a draw or a Q, figuring he can get you to fold a similar hand. A very solid player will push trips to charge you if you're drawing.

So it's entirely dependant on what you think of him, and what he thinks of you.

In general I call. It's far more likely he's got a hand that he'd prefer not to see a showdown with than it is he's got the case jack or a boat.

microbet 10-25-2005 10:54 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
Lots of times Q will call. People love to think you are bluffing. If he has a Jack most likely we're both getting our money in there. If he could have a very good draw here. Let him either overpay for it or fold and I'll just take the pot.

I don't think OPs line is too bad though, especially if he calls.

J-Lo 10-25-2005 10:57 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
wow, so many calls... what do u put oponent on? what cards would he play isn this manner? Does the min raise not scare anyone? I AM TERRIFIED OF MINRAISES!

Is it too weak of me to fold on turn after giving away initiative?

Double Down 10-25-2005 11:01 PM

Re: $55- tough trips situation
 
Actually, after reevaluating, the minraise could be interpreted as just a high queen that is trying to get the drawing hands out, but he doesn't want to get too involved in case you have the jack. He wants to see what you'll do.


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