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Old 05-24-2005, 04:56 AM
daveymck daveymck is offline
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When you have kids this gets worse as you end up at movies etc with kids more often. Generally turning round and looking is enough, if not I then look round and make a huge show of sighing or whatever diplay of annoyance and generally its enough.

I was at the panto with my daughter and the lads behind were older and kept putting their feet on the seats and stuff and so my daughter was scared to sit in her seat, then I just turned and asked then not to put their feet up and that stopped it.

But some parents dont care or cos they have kids around them all the time can be oblivious to the disruption that kids not sitting still can cause to others.

Its hard to go up and speak though cos they are either going to apologize and sort it or act angrily and defensively, or the worst they say sorry but two minutes later the kid is doing the same things again.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:25 AM
jakethebake jakethebake is offline
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1) Next time don't expect quiet in The Care Bears Movie.

2) Was everyone at least giving them the SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH? I usually give them the Sssshhhhhh a few times before I go find a manager or something to confront them.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:34 AM
Chris Daddy Cool Chris Daddy Cool is offline
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This kind of reminds me of that scene in Fight Club where he tells the members to pick fights with totally random strangers. Then the members do the best they can to get their asses kicked, but the strangers, despite getting harrassed, try to avoid the confrontations at all costs.
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Old 05-24-2005, 09:37 AM
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So I'm watching a movie tonight, and in the row behind me, on the edge next to the aisle, there's a young couple with a 5 year old daughter. She spends the first 45 mins of the film intermitantly making noise and letting everybody know she doesn't want to stay in her seat. She then spends the next 30 minutes hopping around in her seat, rolling down the steps on the side, and running back and forth across the aisleway in front.

So finally I got up and talked to the father, who was quite obviously offended and got very defensive. I don't really want to get into the gist of the conversation we had in the theatre or afterwords when they approached me about it, but I do have a question for you guys.

Why is it so hard to confront a stranger? I'm not a shy person at all, and I don't fear confrontation. But I sat in my seat at least 20 minutes longer than I had resolved to confront them. Generally, I think everybody wants to mind their own business, but when a confrontation is appropriate, why do we put it off as much as we absolutely can?

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Because being assertive can be difficult to pull off. Confrontations are tense, uncomfortable and unpredictable and it is often easier (and wiser) to just suck it up.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:04 AM
rlpsjstyle rlpsjstyle is offline
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Being a former movie theatre employee, I can at least address what I did when people complained about their fellow movie-goers.

The complainer needed only to say something to me and I would speak with the offenders. I would tell the offender that I (myself, not other customers in the theatre) had heard the situation and that they had one chance to keep the situation under control. If I heard anything myself or had any other customers complain after that fact, they would be removed from the theatre and refunded their money.

I would then check back periodically. If the situation did not improve, I would follow up on what I told them. They would be escorted to the box office to refund their money. Management, if it were to be called, always backed up the decisions of the staff in this regard. The people removed from the theatre could always return for a later show or a show on another day.

Oh, and the cops find it very entertaining to come to the movie theatre and settle "squabbles" in my area, so if things get out of hand, that is always an option.

For myself, through working in a place where I often had to confront and follow through with things others may view as threats, I have very little problem with it anymore. The most important thing to keep in mind is to state exactly what your problem is with a minimum of blame. It gets much easier with time and practice.

Hope it helped.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:19 AM
Phat Mack Phat Mack is offline
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Why is it so hard to confront a stranger? I'm not a shy person at all, and I don't fear confrontation. But I sat in my seat at least 20 minutes longer than I had resolved to confront them.

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You were in a bad situation. You waited 20 minutes too long, maybe longer, to address the situation. Stuff builds up when you wait, and in any kind of confrontation, the first person to lose their cool loses.

And you were asking them to control their kid, something they couldn't or wouldn't do. It was unlikely that they didn't notice the kid was being a brat. Some parents don't believe in controlling their kids, some don't know how to control them, and sometimes 5-year-olds just can't be controlled.

I would have tried a dirty look the first time I heard a peep out of her, then I would have looked for a better seat. Failing that, I would have found the management.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:39 AM
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When it's someone else's kids it is difficult. If it was a loud group of teenagers or adults would it have been tough? It depends on the situation but, if someone is old enough to know better I have no problem confronting them.

A few years ago I was at the bad Ben Stiller flick "Mystery Men". There was a group of teenagers in the back talking and carrying on. Less than a minute in I heard a guy approach them and tell them to, "Shut the [censored] up." They didn't quiet down so he grabbed a fire extinguisher and blasted the with it.

This is the correct play.
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Old 05-24-2005, 10:40 AM
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Phat Mack,
This is a really stupid comment:

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Stuff builds up when you wait, and in any kind of confrontation, the first person to lose their cool loses

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If you are ever going to fight the best advice is to throw the first punch (which is related to losing your cool first)

Also, in response to the recent gun violence thread, the first person to lose their cool in a gun fight almost always is the winner.


In fact, it is more difficult to think of situations where the person losing his cool first wins.

Maybe an example would be in the recent LHE thread about the guy getting hit over the head with a bottle (100 years ago he would have shot you! .) The villain certaintly lost his cool first and although he was arrested I would say that the hero, by virtue of being knocked out, also certaintly lost.

Just wanted to point out that you were way off on that comment...
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:12 PM
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to avoid confrontation? basically, the less drama the better.
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Old 05-24-2005, 02:45 PM
Kurn, son of Mogh Kurn, son of Mogh is offline
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1. Without getting out of your seat, simply say loudly, "Control that little brat or I'm gonna stuff her in a wastebasket." Only try this if you are a big dude.

Ummm, as frustrating as the situation is, this is, in effect, you threatening a child. Somehow I doubt you're really do this.
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