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#11
02-17-2005, 07:04 PM
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Re: ATo.
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Check-fold the river. I think betting here is -EV. [/ QUOTE ] I felt I had a very good chance of winning with this bet. At least a good enough chance to bet it. If you didn't know my hand, what would you put me on given how I played it? What are the opponents seeing when I bet here? btw...the only one Im really worried about folding is the button. If he folds, My chances go up quite a bit that now my pair might be good. b 
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#13
02-17-2005, 07:46 PM
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Re: ATo.
hrmmm
i think on flop.. either fold or raise.. i personally like raise... it mite drive out button... if he 3-bets you then you can start to worry... i don't understand the call on the turn either... looks like u'd be getting about 7:1 to call... doens't seem like enough w/ an overcard and a gutshot w/ a 2-flush on board...
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#14
02-17-2005, 08:02 PM
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Re: ATo.
I agree with the flop raise cause this was raised preflop. I don't think that the button (with no strong read) would bluff this flop just on position making the river -EV. If UTG is gonna bet and u already called... buttons raise doesnt expect to scare people out and at least means a jack or a stonger draw than you have.
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#15
02-17-2005, 08:03 PM
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Re: ATo.
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I most likely would have checked the river... [/ QUOTE ] Checking the river, you lose this hand, imo. Look at the board and how it was played by all players from preflop on. There is a really good bluff spot presenting itself on the river here. Note: I wouldn't have just bet on any card hitting the river. b
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#16
02-17-2005, 08:04 PM
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Re: ATo.
also ur runner runner straight draw is pretty much worthless with a potential flush draw out there. and this takes away from ur ace pairing as well.
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#17
02-17-2005, 08:05 PM
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Re: ATo.
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i don't understand the call on the turn either... looks like u'd be getting about 7:1 to call... doens't seem like enough w/ an overcard and a gutshot w/ a 2-flush on board... [/ QUOTE ] Im openended on the turn. b
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#18
02-17-2005, 08:10 PM
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Re: ATo.
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I agree with the flop raise cause this was raised preflop. I don't think that the button (with no strong read) would bluff this flop just on position making the river -EV. If UTG is gonna bet and u already called... buttons raise doesnt expect to scare people out and at least means a jack or a stonger draw than you have. [/ QUOTE ] Your forgetting that many, many players will play 1 main hand like I did. Even though they should also raise that hand on the flop, many won't. This was my thought instantly when the river card hit. [ QUOTE ] buttons raise doesnt expect to scare people out and at least means a jack or a stonger draw than you have. [/ QUOTE ] When he bets the turn, it's unlikely the button is drawing. So I put him on a J. Now, what hands is he reasonably putting me on, that most players would play this way, when I call his turn bet? b
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#19
02-17-2005, 08:14 PM
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Re: ATo.
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also ur runner runner straight draw is pretty much worthless with a potential flush draw out there. and this takes away from ur ace pairing as well. [/ QUOTE ] If I had raised the flop and got it HU with UTG just calling, there'd be a decent chance I still had the best hand and that an A would be good if it hit. b
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#20
02-17-2005, 08:26 PM
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Re: ATo.
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Check-fold the river. I think betting here is -EV. Krishan [/ QUOTE ] I think this is the easiest part of the postflop play. You can easily release it for a raise, and most opponents will have a hard time calling w/o better than a pair. Freakin
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