ATo.
 

A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

I hate my overall play on the flop.

UB 2-4

Many sLAGs on this table.

Loosie limps UTG. Folded to me, I raise in the highjack seat. (CO1). Button calls as does the UTG. 3 to flop.

Flop: J [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]6 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

UTG bets out(wide range here), I call, Button raises(could easily be position), UTG calls, I call.

turn: Q [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]

Checked to button who bets (wasn't just a position bet on flop), UTG and I call.

River T [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

UTG checks, I bet, button thinks a bit, then folds, UTG folds.

b

Re: ATo.
 

Interesting.

Why did you bet the river?

Adam

Re: ATo.
 

I think the flop should have been folded.

(If you think that's weak, raising is the better play. Calling is the worst.)


My analysis:

You're getting 8.5:1 money when the action is to you on the flop.

Give maybe 2 outs for your three aces, 1.5 for the backdoor flush, and maybe 0.5 for the double gutshot (I feel this is being rather generous). That only gives you about 4 outs, which is not enough to call the 8.5:1 draw. Raising at least gives the possibility of pushing out the button and/or earning a free card on the turn.

Adam

Re: ATo.
 

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Why did you bet the river?


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Because I didn't think my pair of tens was good enough for a showdown.

b

Re: ATo.
 

I dislike the flop call. After that I think you played fine.

Re: ATo.
 

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Why did you bet the river?


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Because I didn't think my pair of tens was good enough for a showdown.

b

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But you felt the other *two* in this pot would fold?

Re: ATo.
 

I agree with your analysis. I screwed the pooch on the flop. It was raise/fold. Probably more fold/raise. Right as I heard the 'click' of calling I asked myself what the hell I just did. Unfortunately, it wasn't a misclick. [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img]

b

Re: ATo.
 

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But you felt the other *two* in this pot would fold?

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After the flop fiasco, my brain unfogged on the turn/river. Given how I played my hand, I could easily represent a hand(s) that would make them fold. Or at least consider it. If UTG bets, I fold. When he checks, I know what he 'doesn't' have. So that frees it up for my 'possible' hand.

b

Re: ATo.
 

Check-fold the river. I think betting here is -EV.

Krishan

Re: ATo.
 

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I dislike the flop call.

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I was pretty pissed at myself right after I did it. But then didn't have time to dwell on it as the turn card came in my favor. Kind of like a 2nd chance to make things right in the hand.

b