44 unimproved HU

[Go_Blue88]

I like the raise p/f...but I think that you should lead the flop b/c if he reraises you I think that you can get away from the hand pretty easily. Did you put him on a flush draw or QJ, or even a pair of K's? If so then I think the turn bet is good...it shows a lot of strength and can push him off of a draw. But, I don't understand your river play. If you called the last 390 b/c you think that he missed a draw then why not just bet out? Also, once he calls your turn bet I think that it's pretty clear that he's not on a draw, and has you beat. I feel like this river needs to go check fold...save your last 400. What did you put him on that caused you to call?

[Ezcheeze]

What hands does he call the flop check raise with and fold to the turn bet? Sure there are some but it doesn't look like enough to me.

When he bets the river I think it's an easy fold sure you'll be ahead some of the time but not nearly enough based on the pot odds. I can't be sure how deeply he's thinking this thorugh but from his point of view it doesn't look like you're folding the river.

Also, the flop check raise looks very suspicious. Unless hes seen you do this with a good hand it's hard for him to give you credit for a hand.

-Ezcheeze

[flawless_victory]

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I like the raise p/f...but I think that you should lead the flop b/c if he reraises you I think that you can get away from the hand pretty easily. Did you put him on a flush draw or QJ, or even a pair of K's? If so then I think the turn bet is good...it shows a lot of strength and can push him off of a draw. But, I don't understand your river play. If you called the last 390 b/c you think that he missed a draw then why not just bet out? Also, once he calls your turn bet I think that it's pretty clear that he's not on a draw, and has you beat. I feel like this river needs to go check fold...save your last 400. What did you put him on that caused you to call?

[/ QUOTE ]let me help you. betting the river is dumb because there is no chance hes gonna call witht the worst hand, so it will be a stone bluff. the problem is noone will call that turn bet with a hand they beats 44 and then fold the riv... why the hell would they do this? if they were gonna make a laydown, they woulda done it already...

[flawless_victory]

as for this hand... pf is obvious... flop i dont like, but its ok.. just bet... ppl bet there almost every time with good hands, so do it. the CR is looking kinda weak to me. after the flop i think you gotta shut down... too likely hes gonna move in. the river i think is perfect... ppl who want check/fold are not on the level... when he calls 310 with only 700 total, he almost has to have a draw... why would you not push or fold here with a made hand? the red duece couldnt of helped him and i would call that river bet too... if slowplayed 88 to death, fine.

[flawless_victory]

BTW/ the obvious hand that might play the turn like this and is a winner would be T [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]X [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]... that hand always takes a showdown for free on the end...

[Smock8]

ew

[theBruiser500]

you remind me of tournament players, trying to win evreying you play

[imported_bingobazza]

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its bad enough taking a race with 44 HU, big -EV. But this is simply much worse than that after what happened on the flop.

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How is this a race? He's not all in. Villain does not know he has 44. He's not putting his whole stack in preflop on a 50/50 shot.

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Im not saying that this is a race, but that a race with 44, is, over time, much less than 50/50, and that this is much worse than those odds, considering what happened on the flop.

[Popinjay]

Can we get results and thought process?

[Big_Jim]

You make this post with no reads and expect ANYBODY to tell you that they like your play?