Small PP, large pot

[David04]

Party Poker 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

<font color="red"> Obviously I have to call one more bet after putting two in. But fo you fold to the first raise here, or was a call okay?</font>

Flop: (24 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB calls.

<font color="red"> This flop isn't terrible. I have a gutshot draw and only one overcard. My hand isn't likely to be best here, but I am getting 30:1 and am nearly closing the action. BB was very passive, wasn't too worried about a raise there.</font>

Turn: (16 BB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(8 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, UTG+2 calls, MP3 calls, CO calls, Button calls, Hero calls, BB folds.

<font color="red"> Okay, I missed my draw and I am almost definitely behind now. But, I am getting 22:1 and I have maybe 4 or 5 outs(four 5's and two 4's, but they might not all be clean.) But even if I only have two outs a call is correct.</font>

River: (23 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(7 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 folds, MP3 calls, CO folds, Button calls, Hero folds.

<font color="red">Damn, I missed my hand. Check/fold here.</font>
Final Pot: 26 BB

Well, how was my chasing here? Good? Bad? A close decision?

Any advice appreciated.

[istewart]

Nice hand.

[RatFink]

Interesting hand, I think I would play it quite the same. The turn is the only part that I'd want to think a bit since my 4s are dirty. But 22:1 and just about closing the action knowing I can collect on the river would lean me towards also calling the turn as you did. Nice table selection!

[Fryguy]

I play pretty much the same way.

Any numbers people wanna jump in and see if maybe raising the 44 preflop with these many people around is good?

Preflop fine. Flop fine b/c you are almost closing the action, if you are UTG+1 you have to fold. I don't like the turn b/c as you say your 5's and 4's are likely not clean in this big multiway pot.

[istewart]

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Preflop fine. Flop fine b/c you are almost closing the action, if you are UTG+1 you have to fold. I don't like the turn b/c as you say your 5's and 4's are likely not clean in this big multiway pot.

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Hero's getting 22:1 to call the turn. Folding would be horrible.

[milesdyson]

i'm not trying to be mean by singling out tehox or anything, but this kind of post is a good reason to always think before accepting any advice on the forum. this turn call should be basic instinct; there is no excuse for suggesting folding here.

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i'm not trying to be mean by singling out tehox or anything, but this kind of post is a good reason to always think before accepting any advice on the forum. this turn call should be basic instinct; there is no excuse for suggesting folding here.

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I think I have an excuse. I suck at poker.

[Nick C]

I play it the same way.

With so many players still in on the turn, your one-card straight and set outs are very tainted (and the two-flush that's now on the board doesn't help any either). You may just be drawing to a chop.

But I don't think you can fold, getting 22:1.

[numeri]

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You may just be drawing to a chop. But I don't think you can fold, getting 22:1.

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Even if we knew we were drawing to a chop, we should still call.

By the way, in that case, can we consider our odds basically halved? (That's what I'm thinking, at least.)