QQ bet or check this river?

LuckyDevil · #1 06-24-2005, 01:36 AM

Simple question. Should i bet or check on this river?

MP2 is unknown and CO is 28/5/1.3.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero ????

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Valuebettingtheriver · #2 06-24-2005, 02:03 AM

I would check given that you have no reads on MP2, and he probably has a weak A in my opinion, or maybe he is planning on check raising the flush, putting you on a strong hand. in 2/4 I notice this especially that players love to set up a check raise on the river, particularly heads up.

DeuceKicker · #3 06-24-2005, 02:10 AM

I don't see much benefit to betting. Most likely he was calling along with either an ace, a flush draw, or something like middle pair. Two of these three beat you.

You'll miss a bet the few times calls the river with a weaker pair, but I don't think this offsets the times he checkraises with his flush or even a crazy rivered two pair.

aK13 · #4 06-24-2005, 02:13 AM

Check. That was probably the worst card ever for you. I might even consider folding...

LuckyDevil · #5 06-24-2005, 07:04 PM

Thanks for the few replies.

The whole hand worked out like this.

Party Poker 2/4 Hold'em (10 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
4 folds, MP2 calls, Hero raises, CO calls, 3 folds, MP2 calls.

Flop: (7.50 SB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, MP2 calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero bets, CO calls, MP2 calls.

River: (8.25 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (3 players)
MP2 checks, Hero checks, CO checks.

Final Pot: 8.25 BB

Results in white below: 
MP2 has Tc 7d (one pair, sevens).
Hero has Qh Qd (one pair, queens).
CO has 9s Qs (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 8.25 BB.

mscags · #6 06-24-2005, 07:08 PM

Unless villian is a complete idiot I think checking behind and taking the free showdown is the best play most of the time.