Republicans who want war, but won't enlist.

[jaxmike]

here the thing though pfunk. back in Vietnam, the people supported the troops also. then, as time passed, and the onslaught from the media continued, the people began to change their mind. it's simply what happened. look at the military history of vietnam, look at how the media covered it.

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/a...ec/bishop.html

http://www.gruntonline.com/US_Forces...chronology.htm
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In the Battle for Hue City, the North Vietnamese in Division strength on January 31 captured most of the city except for small pockets of resistance. Elements of the 1st Marine Division Task Force X-ray, the South Vietnamese 1st ARVN Division, and the U.S. 1st Air Cavalry Division in month-long house to house fighting retook the city with significant losses suffered by both sides... The capture of Hue, the ancient Imperial capital of Vietnam had significant symbolic reverberations throughout the country and was the one partially successful element of the enemy Tet offensive.

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This is the truth, the Tet offensive was a huge defeat for the Vietcong, yet the media would have left you thinking the opposite.

Did the US ever really lose a battle in Vietnam?

http://www.vietnam-war.info/myths/

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The American military was not defeated in Vietnam. The American military did not lose a battle of any consequence. From a military standpoint, it was almost an unprecedented performance. (Westmoreland quoting Douglas Pike, a professor at the University of California, Berkley a renowned expert on the Vietnam War) [Westmoreland] This included Tet 68, which was a major military defeat for the VC and NVA.

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I stand by my belief that the network media, for whatever reason, lied to the public repeatedly during Vietnam and they are doing it again now.

[Utah]

Do you believe in law and order in this country? If so, when do you plan to sign up to be a police officer.

Of course, your argument is non sensical for obvious reasons.

[Eihli]

your and my lust for non-war has saved just as many people as any other poster's lust for war has killed. (make sense?) zero.

the only thing most these people have done to support this war is vote for it, and the only thing i've done to not support it is vote against it. how can i expect someone to act on their beliefs of war if i havn't acted on my beliefs of pacifism?

[guller]

Are you chained to an old growth (dead) redwood tree right now, or are you at your computer desk (made of wood).

[Felix_Nietsche]

It is no secret the republicans own the military vote.

I believe the numbers are approximately 70% of the military votes republican.
72% of active duty soldiers preferred Bush while 19% preferred Kerry...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Oct11.html
So we can conclude that Republicans are more likely to fight for America than Democrats....

Another troll post by a "chickendove" liberal democrat.... [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
Or do you prefer the term...progressive?

[Dead]

Except Kerry fought for America and Bush didn't.

Another post by a weirdo Republican. Or do you prefer the term stupid?

[chabibi]

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Except Kerry fought for America and Bush didn't

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Dead, what the hell is your point. felix makes a good argument and you reply with this? you are like a little kid who's only comeback is " i know you are but what am i?"

[BCPVP]

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Except Kerry fought for America and Bush didn't.

Another post by a weirdo Republican. Or do you prefer the term stupid?

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Sorry Dead. This post does nothing to show that the majority of military men are Republican.

[Felix_Nietsche]

"weirdo","stupid"

<Sigh> Why are democrats so angry and aggressive?...
Is it possible to have a rational discussion with them with out the ad hominem attacks?.....Nah...Probably Not [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

Bush served in the National Guard.
Kerry who set the swift boat record for the shortest stay in a combat zone (4 months) and proceded to attack his own country when he returned to the US. Even Kerry admits he regrets these actions (assuming he was not lying so people wouldn't think he was a self hating American).

Between the two, I say Bush served his country better than Kerry...

[Felix_Nietsche]

This is why Democrats like Gore and the Washington State Govenor try to enforce the overseas military ballot deadlines even in war zones like Iraq.....

The more military votes they can disenfranchise.....the better the dems do in the election...