the rake in poker

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No again. The rake costs you about .5 BB an hour.

Rake

[Piers]

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No again. The rake costs you about .5 BB an hour.

Rake

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So What.

The rake is about 0.05SB per hand. This assumes an average pot size of ten times the small blind and ten people at the table.

At high limits the average pot size is a little below 10SB while it is a little over at low limits. Just go to an online site and look at the average pot sizes.

Just repeating the word "no" over and over again does not make something flase. Not even if you make the "NO" louder each time.

[mackthefork]

If this new site charges a fixed monthly fee instead of a rake, it is not likely to attract small stakes casual players (fish), people who lose at poker are less likely to be either interested or knowledgable about how much they are paying. My conclusion is that this site is likely to attract a load of good/excellent/decent players but very few awful players, thus being a fish myself i will be avoiding it.

I know i can clean up in the games i play in, but likewise there are 100's of players on here who could beat me without hardly trying, in my opinion one persons shark is another persons fish.

Good luck, play well

Regards ML

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Your point was that these cardrooms offer promotions that is worth the cost of the rake. Show me one site with a continuous promotion that can is worth .5BB an hour. You might get a deposit bonus once every two months that is worth that for 600 hands but after that you are back to paying .5 BB an hour

[Piers]

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Your point was that these cardrooms offer promotions that is worth the cost of the rake. Show me one site with a continuous promotion that can is worth .5BB an hour. You might get a deposit bonus once every two months that is worth that for 600 hands but after that you are back to paying .5 BB an hour

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I regularly play at around 20 sites. Across these sites you can usually get between 100 and 200 hours of promotions per month at a rate that coves the rake. The Cryptologic sites contribute a regular 50 hours a month and other sites variable amounts.

I don’t find it useful to think in terms of promotions at individual sites when each one is just a mouse click away, rather think across the industry as a whole.

[Alobar]

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Your point was that these cardrooms offer promotions that is worth the cost of the rake. Show me one site with a continuous promotion that can is worth .5BB an hour. You might get a deposit bonus once every two months that is worth that for 600 hands but after that you are back to paying .5 BB an hour

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I regularly play at around 20 sites. Across these sites you can usually get between 100 and 200 hours of promotions per month at a rate that coves the rake. The Cryptologic sites contribute a regular 50 hours a month and other sites variable amounts.

I don’t find it useful to think in terms of promotions at individual sites when each one is just a mouse click away, rather think across the industry as a whole.

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If you think you get enough back in promotions to cover your rake you are in a world of denial. I can only assume you don't own pokertracker (or if you do, you obviously don't look at it) go buy a copy play for a month and then tell me how you even come close to managing it.

[SA-Bishop]

I just had what I think is a great idea. Instead of charging the upfront fee, everyone has to pay rake equal to that of party until they've paid their 30 for that month. That way the fish will still come, and the site makes just as much money, and we realize how much better of a deal it is. Maybe include an option to pay it all up front as well.

[Syntax]

I don't get a rake rebate from any of the big sites because I registered for them long before that all started, so like yourself, I chase bonuses to take the edge off the rake, but it does not "cover" it. I suggest you take Alobars advice and see what you pay in rake for a month. It will make you sick.

[Alobar]

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I just had what I think is a great idea. Instead of charging the upfront fee, everyone has to pay rake equal to that of party until they've paid their 30 for that month. That way the fish will still come, and the site makes just as much money, and we realize how much better of a deal it is. Maybe include an option to pay it all up front as well.

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This has already been mentioned, and I've even emailed them about this. They arn't going to do it tho.

[Piers]

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If you think you get enough back in promotions to cover your rake you are in a world of denial. I can only assume you don't own pokertracker (or if you do, you obviously don't look at it) go buy a copy play for a month and then tell me how you even come close to managing it.

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Since I became redundant about seven months ago I have made about $8K from poker promotions. (Lifted at a top level form Quicken)

I have played around 1300 hours of ring games, mostly playing four to six low limit games at once. 1300 hours of rake from 2/4 games is not going to be more than around $6K.

If I finish all available promotions, I usually start playing tournaments or do casino promotions or take a holiday, rather than play more ring games (Yes I have kept poker and casino promotions separate). Hence the very high ratio of poker promotion returns to rake.