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Old 03-30-2005, 10:44 AM
Chris Dow Chris Dow is offline
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Default Re: 2/4 Check-up Flopping the Nuts and not even considering FPS lines

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Old 03-30-2005, 10:46 AM
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I'm not sure why you are so gunshy about raising these 2 hands preflop. I think you are underestimating the power of initiative when you are in a shorthanded situation with a good hand that is likely to be the best. When your opponent misses a flop, which they will do 2/3 of the time, you have huge fold equity in relation to the potsize. If these situations make you uncomfortable then I would encourage you to play some 6-max.

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Yeah I wouldn't even begin to describe myself as gunshy about these hands preflop. The logic I am currently using to justify both of those situations is that keeping the pot so small preflop allows me to really punish them postflop with bets. As far as that 77 hand goes I am leading that into him almost all of the time on the flop. Ace and Paint is one of the only times I'm not leading. So yes, when I lead the 77 I want the pot to have 5 dollars in it so that I am betting 2 into 5 and he is getting 2 into 7 and if he wants to take one off with ax where x is lower than 7 he's really really making a mistake.
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Old 03-30-2005, 10:48 AM
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Look out for my next book, "Bob Ciaffone Explains Poker Through Haiku"

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Old 03-30-2005, 10:50 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Check-up Flopping the Nuts and not even considering FPS lines

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Old 03-30-2005, 10:56 AM
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: 2/4 Check-up Flopping the Nuts and not even considering FPS lines

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As far as that 77 hand goes I am leading that into him almost all of the time on the flop. Ace and Paint is one of the only times I'm not leading.

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You should always come out betting an Ace high flop headsup. It's the card that gives you the most fold equity. If I held rag-rag on this flop, I would come out betting. They will fold a high enough % of time for this to be instantly profitable, regardless of what cards you hold.

Also, about the 77 hand. You are even money against 2 overcards before the flop. But that's only if the hand goes to showdown. So, you are looking for a way to win this hand before it goes to showdown, thereby increasing your equity from 50% to something significantly higher. What is the best way to increase you chance of getting your opponent to fold before showdown? Well, I think most advanced players (I'm not saying that I'm one of them) would tell you to raise preflop and bet any flop. I don't think there is any other way that is even close.

Also, sometimes your 77 will be a favorite against the limping hands like 22-66 or X2-X7. So, against these hands you are raising preflop for value.
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:06 AM
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please bet your ace high
when you're heads up on the flop
otherwise you'll lose
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:07 AM
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You flopped the nuts and shut out the BB. Nice. I don't want to give him a chance to call either.

You also didn't raise preflop with what is likely the best hand. Nice.

All-in-all. Nice.
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:09 AM
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You flopped the nuts and shut out the BB. Nice. I don't want to give him a chance to call either.

You also didn't raise preflop with what is likely the best hand. Nice.

All-in-all. Nice.

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wow, I'm seriously impressed with myself for that. if only I wasn't ripping off diablo. maybe I'll post some limericks later
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Old 03-30-2005, 11:16 AM
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wow, I'm seriously impressed with myself for that. if only I wasn't ripping off diablo. maybe I'll post some lymericks later

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Limerick you douchebag.

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