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Old 09-28-2004, 10:14 AM
Victor Victor is offline
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Default Another consideration

By checkraising, the limpreraiser (probably with AA and def with KK) may 3-bet and all callers would be forced to call and then you can cap. Checkraising easily builds the biggest pot. This is a much larger consideration than cleaning up your outs (which are probably tainted anyway.)
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:32 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 ATs Hand My Friend Played

A bet risks UTG raising and probably forcing out some of those other 4 limpers. Ch risks free card, which hurts your value more than your chances.

I'd guess at least 1 of those 4 limpers may have hit a piece of that flop or a draw and might make a play from LP looking for some folds. I'd go for the c/r.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 ATs Hand My Friend Played

Not sure why everyone is all over Bison here. Check-raising for value is obvious... we can all see it... he can see that... etc. But, if the game is loose/aggressive enough that Hero thinks he can get 3 or possibly 4 bets from everyone by betting out than I think it makes a lot of sense. For me it has nothing to do with cleaning up any outs.... it's just trying to get as many bets in as possible... in most games that would be done with a check-raise on the flop, natch.... However, I am sure we have all played in plenty of games where you might as well just bet out and let the fireworks go off since you already know you aren't folding.

That being said, without a good read of the table conditions, check-raising the flop is SOP. But we all knew that already.

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Old 09-28-2004, 11:05 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 ATs Hand My Friend Played

I'd check raise to build a pot. I'd be looking for diamonds that don't pair the board. 10's are probably no good, and an Ace might be good.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:20 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 ATs Hand My Friend Played

checks, planning on checkraising the field for value with his nut flush draw.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:25 AM
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Default The Really Important Questions...

Say he makes it on the turn, he's check-raising then, right? Just for kicks?
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:32 AM
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Default Re: Results

What I want to know then, is how many people called the flop raise, and did your friend threebet the flop?
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:33 AM
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Default Re: 10/20 ATs Hand My Friend Played

don't make me use the Five Point Palm Exploding Heart Technique on you.
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