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Old 08-19-2005, 07:53 PM
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Default Re: 25/50 hand reading post esp. for those in Keres thread

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Many competent players play the board and their opponent in these spots, making their cards irrelevant.

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But many posters post the cards and play with little description of the opponents in these spots, making the analysis difficult, yes?

And if both players are just playing each other and playing any two cards, then how can you arrive at any good decision other than a version of " i thought it more than (pot size ratio to bet) likely he'd fold?
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:01 PM
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But many posters post the cards and play with little description of the opponents in these spots, making the analysis difficult, yes?

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Of course. That was my point here. Without knowing AK and inferring that Hero probably lost, no way people in that other thread are making these precise reads like they did.

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how can you arrive at any good decision other than a version of " i thought it more than (pot size ratio to bet) likely he'd fold?

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Well, that is the key to the game, getting those frequencies as close to right as possible. This is much easier live for many of us, where we just know for sure someone is gonna fold for another barrel - or hates their hand but is calling no matter what.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:25 PM
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Well, that is the key to the game, getting those frequencies as close to right as possible. This is much easier live for many of us, where we just know for sure someone is gonna fold for another barrel - or hates their hand but is calling no matter what.

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But surely there is some mathematical way to arrive at what the proper frequency is -- hasn't someone like Chen or Weideman done something on it you can point people to?
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:39 PM
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Well, that is the key to the game, getting those frequencies as close to right as possible. This is much easier live for many of us, where we just know for sure someone is gonna fold for another barrel - or hates their hand but is calling no matter what.

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But surely there is some mathematical way to arrive at what the proper frequency is -- hasn't someone like Chen or Weideman done something on it you can point people to?

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Plenty has been written regarding the application of game theory to poker.
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