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#33
05-06-2005, 01:34 PM
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Re: Split decision
if it missed, the turn would have gone check-fold.
i agree that folding the flop is suboptimal here. depends on how often he'll raise with and without the flush. problem is he is most likely to hold the nut flush if he's got a flush, because the K, J and T are dead. guestimating, all it would take is for him to have the flush around 30% of the time and the nut flush 15% for folding to be best. wouldn't take much to overcome the dead money in that pot. matt 
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#34
05-06-2005, 02:47 PM
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Re: Split decision
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meant to say is, strong players usually don't come in with JT into a pot with no one in it, in late position, without raising it. What's the point? Without multiway action, it's a weak hand that has little in its favor besides position (it's not favored over two random blind hands), and if you're going to play position, might as well come in for a raise. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe it's just my take on NL, but I don't care too much about multiway action in NL on "multiway" hands so long as stacks are fairly deep. Also, sometimes I will limp with JT, and sometimes I raise it. Pretty much like any other hand I play.
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#35
05-06-2005, 04:09 PM
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Re: Split decision
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] What decision? He has the A of spades, push and hope he only has high card A and you drag pot. [/ QUOTE ] A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] isn't folding to the push. Note that if neither improve, A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]x drags the pot. Garland [/ QUOTE ] These are my thoughts exactly, with 25 seconds, I dump. Perhaps with more thought I talk myself into calling, but I think a fold is right given where you are at. [/ QUOTE ] hero is getting almost 3-1 on a call here. Unless the villian holds the trump ace, folding is a pretty bad idea....The question is how often does he hold the [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] A??
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#37
05-06-2005, 06:09 PM
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Re: Split decision
Could you explain why you wouldn't attempt a stop n go push for the turn?
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#38
05-06-2005, 07:16 PM
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Re: Split decision
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ] meant to say is, strong players usually don't come in with JT into a pot with no one in it, in late position, without raising it. What's the point? Without multiway action, it's a weak hand that has little in its favor besides position (it's not favored over two random blind hands), and if you're going to play position, might as well come in for a raise. [/ QUOTE ] Maybe it's just my take on NL, but I don't care too much about multiway action in NL on "multiway" hands so long as stacks are fairly deep. Also, sometimes I will limp with JT, and sometimes I raise it. Pretty much like any other hand I play. [/ QUOTE ] Well, I'll go out on a limb and say limping JT without position and other callers is a leak.
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