Paradise 25$ NL hand - Page 4

A_PLUS · #31 02-03-2005, 05:16 PM

The funny thing about this hand is we both went all in on the flop, and I caught my flush on the turn, and he caught the 4th Jack on the river. But I thought it was worth discussing.

I think the main lesson here is playing draws out of position sucks. The best you can hope for is that someone underbets the pot and gives you a cheap draw, worst case, you push and lose a good bit of your EV.

TheWorstPlayer · #32 02-03-2005, 06:17 PM

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The funny thing about this hand is we both went all in on the flop, and I caught my flush on the turn, and he caught the 4th Jack on the river. But I thought it was worth discussing.

I think the main lesson here is playing draws out of position sucks. The best you can hope for is that someone underbets the pot and gives you a cheap draw, worst case, you push and lose a good bit of your EV.

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I feel like there are a TON of hands where I end up like this. I first say to myself, well, there wasn't much I could do. No matter what I do I will hit the flush on the turn and go all-in and then he will hit his J and I will lose. Damn, quads over flush. That sucks. And then I'll be like, maybe I shouldn't play this preflop and this is a message. A tighter player would have avoided this situation.

A_PLUS · #33 02-03-2005, 07:43 PM

[quoteI feel like there are a TON of hands where I end up like this. I first say to myself, well, there wasn't much I could do. No matter what I do I will hit the flush on the turn and go all-in and then he will hit his J and I will lose. Damn, quads over flush. That sucks. And then I'll be like, maybe I shouldn't play this preflop and this is a message. A tighter player would have avoided this situation.

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Yeah, I think the important thing to do is you hands to really learn about situations. Thats why I try to avoid posting results of the hand until after people discuss it.

There are many times that you flop a great draw and question how to play it, hopefully now I will be better equipped. Im not going to get caught up in how I could have avoided the situation preflop. B/c if someone offered me the same scenario on the flop, its +EV so Im happy to get it.