What's your river action?

[ML4L]

I was going to try to post something clever, but I don't think that it could top that...

ML4L

[Guido]

So what do you think you should do on the river?

a) Fold
b) Check-call
c) Check-raise and call a 3-bet
d) Check-raise and fold to a 3-bet
e) Bet and call a raise
f) Bet and 3-bet a raise

If it's so obvious, please enlighten us all. We all know it isn't A but you think it's a dumb question so please give us the obvious answer.

Thanks,

Guido

[ML4L]

Strassa,

First off, that limper isn't going anywhere if he has a flush draw. So, more money from him is good. Second, if he has just overcards (or even one overcard), you want the limper to fold, so that your pair of eights might hold up. Third, and possibly most importantly, this might let him take the pot down with a river bet if, for example, T9 misses the straight but makes a pair. Lastly, I'd think him to be the favorite over LAG's range of hands. So more money from him is good too.

You probably don't want to c-r the turn, because that probably will knock out the limper, and if Joe didn't improve on the turn, he probably wouldn't be the favorite vs. LAG anymore.

That's pretty much what Nate said, but I felt like posting anyway.

Mike

PS How many posts have you made today, son? 50?!

[ML4L]

Hey Joe,

Make it one more vote for 3-betting the flop.

I'd bet the river and call a raise.

ML4L

[DCIAce]

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The dumbest post i've seen lately.If you don't call the river with two pair i don't know why you calling preflop in the first place.

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If you're going to try to insult someone, try a bit harder to not sound like an idiot.


(Anyways, I bet the river and call a raise.)

[potato]

Larry Bird is white???

[Phat Mack]

I like your bet out on the flop. At first I thought you should re-raise (trying to get LP pot committed with your big hand), but upon reflection, I like your call better. If the guy in the middle has a spade draw, he has some of your outs so why not keep him in there donating. (His money is drawing almost dead unless he has A-high spades, in which case he's not going anywhere.)

Check-call the turn is fine for the same reason. Sorry the limper bails.

On the river, I figure you have the best hand. If I think LP will bet an AJ or QQ, I'll go for a check and raise. If he looks like he might check I'll bet out. You describe LP as loose agressive, so I don't see a way to put him on AA. (If it were me in your seat, I'd go for the check raise, get re-raised, make a crying call and get shown KJo; but you play better. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img] )

P.S. I can't see why anybody would want to fold this hand on any street...

[Joe Tall]

When in doubt...check-raise. The LAG 3-bet, DOH!, I called.

He flipped over KJo [img]/images/graemlins/crazy.gif[/img], true to a LAG on the river indeed.

So the concensus seems to be:

Bet out on the flop.
3-bet the flop.
Check/call the turn.
Bet the river.

Thanks you for all the responses.

Peace,
Joe Tall

[bicyclekick]

Joe, I'm extremely suprised you didn't 3 bet this flop. I think it's definately the correct move.

On the river I bet and call a raise.

[obi---one]

If you really think you are ahead you will make the most money by betting the flop, calling the raise. Then, leading the turn, all the while trying to trap the limper for extra bets. PLus you have a nice draw to fall back on if your read is wrong and you are behind