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Old 10-27-2005, 11:32 PM
NLSoldier NLSoldier is offline
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I'm not sure if I understand; why not ditch it preflop?

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No way. Not in a 5-handed game with an UTG limper and a likely tight/solid image. This hand can be played profitably here.

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this isnt looking good for you bob...
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:41 PM
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it's as if some people responding to tommy's posts have spent zero time sitting at a poker table and studying how a game can flow, and all their time in some realm where poker rules and strategies exist, but the game is never actually played against thinking opponents.

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Exactly! It's called 8-tabling.
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:48 PM
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The river was a jack. He checked, I bet, and he folded.

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My guess is you were bluffing with the best hand. Figure an Ace would call the river, since his kicker shouldn't matter. So do you get K-high and Ten-hand hands to fold, I would guess yes on Ten high to avoid splits for sure. TA will have to give us a guess at K-highs for his opponent.

For a post called clang there doesn't seem to be a lot of thrust and parry going on, or even swings. Seems more like a duel where you each take your turn firing your 1 shot.
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Old 10-27-2005, 11:48 PM
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I'm not sure if I understand; why not ditch it preflop?

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No way. Not in a 5-handed game with an UTG limper and a likely tight/solid image. This hand can be played profitably here.

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this isnt looking good for you bob...

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Old 10-27-2005, 11:57 PM
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i have 64o in the bb mirage 20-40 short handed new game. sb doesnt chop. folded to him he raises, i call. the flop is KQ3, he bets, i call. the turn is a Q. he checks, i bet, he folds.

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And this is an example of what? If you say your called the flop planning to steal on the turn...OK...I guess, but I don't understand the flop call unless you have opponent specific knowledge. Or didja put him on 5-high?
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Old 10-28-2005, 12:01 AM
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anyways, i think calling the turn is much better than raising it.

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Can you explain Chris?
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:07 AM
mike l. mike l. is offline
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"I don't understand the flop"

what i held didnt matter. i decided on the flop there was a strong chance he did not have a K or a Q, given the openraising hand range a sb non-chopper typically has is huge, much larger than online where chopping is not an option. so all i needed to do was represent in his mind that i had one of those big cards. flat calling (as opposed to raising) the flop was the best way to do so.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:09 AM
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For a post called clang there doesn't seem to be a lot of thrust and parry going on, or even swings. Seems more like a duel where you each take your turn firing your 1 shot.

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Checks can be thrusts. Checks can be parries.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:33 AM
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I liked nfscreech's explication.
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Old 10-28-2005, 01:34 AM
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I liked nfscreech's explication.

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Thanks; I missed it.
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