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Tommy Angelo 10-27-2005 03:24 PM

clangs
 
I'm playing a lot of shorthanded these days. I'm in my best-ever mental and physical shape, playing in the toughest player pool I've ever swam in. It is war, and peace, together.

And I do love my enemies. And music is made from the clangs of our swords ...

Five-handed $80-160. I was on the button with ten-eight sooted. UTG limped, the cutoff folded, I raised, the small blind folded and the BB called. Threeway. The flop was Q-7-4 rainbow. Checked around. The turn card paired the four, and it put a backdoor flush on board (not my suit). The big blind bet, the limper folded, and I called. The river was a jack. He checked, I bet, and he folded.

jba 10-27-2005 03:28 PM

Re: clangs
 
so was this your plan when you checked the flop?

don't you think you have a better chance of winning 6 sb's on the flop for the price of 1SB, than you do of winning 4BBs for 2BBs? or is that extra BB just too juicy to pass up?

baronzeus 10-27-2005 03:28 PM

Re: clangs
 
i guess your play is fine, but i would much rather just bet the flop and take it down with the worst hand.

stackm 10-27-2005 03:30 PM

Re: clangs
 
I'm playing a lot of full ring these days. I'm in the drunkest and most incoherent shape of my life; I couldn't feel better. The game was 2-4, 9 players at the Imperial Palace. The taste of delicious, partially hydrogenated cookies filled my mouth. The action was folded to me; I look down at AK in the cutoff and raise. The button and big blind call. The flop comes, 862, rainbow. It's checked to me, and I bet. Everyone folds.

Victory.

jba 10-27-2005 03:33 PM

Re: clangs
 
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The game was 2-4, 9 players at the Imperial Palace.
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Everyone folds.

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I'm in the drunkest and most incoherent shape of my life

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i'd say

newhizzle 10-27-2005 03:33 PM

Re: clangs
 
i think this hand is above my level of thinking, but why not just bet the flop?

when you call the turn, are you planning to raise the river if bet into, or did you anticipate this river check?

Justin A 10-27-2005 03:40 PM

Re: clangs
 
This must be why you like the button so much.

Paluka 10-27-2005 03:50 PM

Re: clangs
 
This is the kind of hand that never makes sense online, but I've done this live too. You just know that when the guy bets the turn he has absolutely nothing.

Mikey 10-27-2005 04:42 PM

Re: clangs
 
go deeper into the hand.
1. desribe your opponnent
2. describe his state of mind
3. describe some previous hands you played with him
4. what is your current image in the game
5. are you winning or losing at this point
6. is your opponennt winning or losing
7. what were his mannerisms on the turn when he bet; something must have told you he didn't have it and to call there.
8. is he type to bet with bad hands and check with good hands
9. Is he the type that never checkraises and this is the reason why you bet?

Aces McGee 10-27-2005 04:49 PM

Re: clangs
 
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You just know that when the guy bets the turn he has absolutely nothing.

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Forgive me, but if this is the case, isn't the play to raise, so we don't give him the chance to catch something on the river?

I could understand the call better if we have a hand worthy of showdown, but we don't.

Surely, we're not trying to squeeze another bet out of him by waiting until he bets the river to bluff raise?

Someone tell me what I'm missing. If it's a "you don't play this high so you wouldn't understand thing," at the very least let me know.

-McGee


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