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#21
11-24-2005, 04:15 PM
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Re: i call on the river
Hey Climber,
Lets try to keep it civil please... We all realize that recommending folding b/c of running bad is poor poker, but lets try to enlighten our fellow posters instead of berating them. to bob: I lead the turn. You will have the best hand here a not-insignificant amount of the time, and if you get raised you can safely c/f the river instead of having to call a bet as a big underdog on the end. Also: Why the hell did you change your name? Did you want it changed to this - did you ask for it? I tried to figure out who the hell this guy was who showed up in HUSH and made 8 posts until I opened it and figured it out from your avatar. Surf 
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#22
11-24-2005, 04:23 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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I don't like the flop 3 bet. You have BB and UTG who might throw some dead money into the pot and your raise scares them away. [/ QUOTE ] The pot is large. Hero wants to maximize his chance of winning it. If he's behind, the nut flush draw with middle pair and a backdoor broadway draw is a strong enough to pump this pot on the flop.
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#23
11-24-2005, 06:28 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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I wouldn't post it to a newbie or someone whose posts I'm not familiar with. OP posts like ten hands a day. [/ QUOTE ] I'm glad to hear that you wouldn't post this advice in a newbies post. Only prob with your reasoning is that plenty of noobs wander in here looking for advice and read the posts of others hoping to learn and profit. You registered in 03 and have 1200+ posts--a new poster could reasonably conclude that they would get good advice from you. Looking at your profile it looks like you primarily post in Politics/OOT. Thats cool but I had just read 2-3 of your posts in HUSH where you make authoritative sounding comments without tons of explanation for them. This further leads to the impression of a solid poster whoes advice you can rely on. At least consider changing your location to Politics/OOT or change the tone of your posts slightly so people know how heavily to weight your advice. Its Thnaksgiving I'm not trying to be a jerk to anyone. I just want to see this forum working at its best cause I have really benefited a lot from it. As for AJs in a six max game against an unknown UTG limper at Party 3/6 and a 50/18 button who raises? You want to fold that in any state of mind? Sorry, but that is a horrible reccomendation and i expected more from someone who has been here 2+ years and has 1200+ posts. Its fine to raise a question like..."how do others feel about AJs's performance in this type of situation?" if you are not sure. We are all here to learn, myself included. And if I am wrong about AJs in this situation someone please tell me...I'd 3-bet roughly 95% of the time in this situation and call the other 5% if I got confused multitabling or something.
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#24
11-24-2005, 06:48 PM
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Re: i call on the river
No offense taken, but I already explained my statement in two other replies before you made your post.
When I post advice, I am certain that I'm right. I also always say why I'd do a certain thing, unless the OP already knows why one would make that play as opposed to another. Sometimes, I find my foot in my mouth, but that's called learning. I don't post advice on hands that I'm not sure about. The preflop comments was a caveat as I had no real disagrement with the pre-flop play. I threw in the 'running bad' comment just as a side note to let others know that my feeling about AJo and AJs isn't rock solid. I am sure, however, that leading on the turn, here, is the right play. I will more clearly phrase my comments in the future. The Politics forum is an addicting degegenarate sphere of ignorance and arrogance. I wish I had the strength to stay away. Happy Thanksgiving jonny
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#25
11-24-2005, 06:51 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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The Politics forum is an addicting degegenarate sphere of ignorance and arrogance. I wish I had the strength to stay away. Happy Thanksgiving jonny [/ QUOTE ] LOL--Thats what my wife says about HUSH. Peace climber
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#27
11-24-2005, 10:37 PM
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Re: i call on the river
I think we are behind on the turn often. Why would we lead the turn? A better hand will not fold. Am I crazy? If the hand was HU then that would be different.
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#28
11-24-2005, 11:22 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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I think we are behind on the turn often. Why would we lead the turn? A better hand will not fold. Am I crazy? If the hand was HU then that would be different. [/ QUOTE ] I think QQ may dump here, but that's it.
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