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PokerBob 11-24-2005 01:11 AM

i call on the river
 
villain is 50/18/1.6. comments on all streets appreciated.

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter

Preflop: Hero is SB with J[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, Button calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, Button calls.

Turn: (11 BB) 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG calls.

River: (14 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls, UTG folds.

Final Pot: 16 BB

psyduck 11-24-2005 01:19 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
Only thing I do different - lead the turn, then call down if 2-bet there.

jt1 11-24-2005 01:40 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
I definitely wouldn't call the river if raised after leading the turn. but i'd definitely lead the turn.

I think I call in SB here, but if i was running bad I may fold. After calling, I may go for check raise on the flop if the situation is right but AJ OOP with EP limper and LP raiser is poop, imo.

wheelz 11-24-2005 01:42 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
yep, lead the turn, have to call the river the way you played it.

silencio 11-24-2005 01:50 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
I don't play at these limits but I'll give it a shot.

I don't like the flop 3 bet. You have BB and UTG who might throw some dead money into the pot and your raise scares them away. I don't know how many hands you have on villain, but at 1.6 AF he often has at least a K here. Why not let him do the betting for you as you draw for your nut flush?

If you decided to 3-bet the flop, you have to bet out on the river esepecially with this harmless 8.

I guess calling the river is fine since you really have almost no idea where you stand and the pot is quite large.

imported_leader 11-24-2005 02:26 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
I lead the turn because I don't want him checking though a worse hand. I'd c/c the river because I don't feel comfortable folding to a raise.

11-24-2005 06:47 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
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I think I call in SB here, but if i was running bad I may fold. After calling, I may go for check raise on the flop if the situation is right but AJ OOP with EP limper and LP raiser is poop, imo.

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Are you serious? If you are running bad, why would you fold a hand this good? That's horrible advice.

11-24-2005 06:55 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
Its fine imo. I would probably lead the turn but I dont think it matters. You might get one more bet in then, should you hit your flush.

Silverback 11-24-2005 06:59 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
Pre flop and flop Id do the same.

Id bet the turn and most likely call the river, with it being a big pot.

ArturiusX 11-24-2005 07:09 AM

Re: i call on the river
 
Do you have stairs in your house?


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