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Old 10-19-2005, 04:21 PM
sy_or_bust sy_or_bust is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs thinking multi-tabler (2+2er?)

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If he wants to get frisky with like Qs 8c or some other marginal hand you are only a slight favorite anyway.

pokenum -h jd jh - qs 8c -- 6s ks ts
Holdem Hi: 990 enumerated boards containing Ks Ts 6s
cards win %win lose %lose tie %tie EV
Jd Jh 543 54.85 447 45.15 0 0.00 0.548
Qs 8c 447 45.15 543 54.85 0 0.00 0.452


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Try to avoid this sort of showdown analysis before thinking about the situation. If Villain checkraises a draw, you can call and 1) raise a safe turn or fold a poor one. If Villain's checkraise means a K, and he will fold to a 4th spade, you can call and raise a spade turn, else fold. More often, Villain has a combined range of checkraising hands, when the right play is more difficult to find (and not necessarily raising any turn).

These are the dynamics of the hand...showdown analysis doesn't help at all - but position, and the turn card, do.
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Old 10-19-2005, 04:32 PM
molawn2mo molawn2mo is offline
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Default Re: JJ vs thinking multi-tabler (2+2er?)

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2. metagame considerations


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Please explain what you mean by metagame considerations?

Do you think people are going to start check raising bluffing you so that you will fold?

If I think someone is doing this taking shots at me, I will 3 bet them with nothing.

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Yes, that is what I mean. Your knee jerk reaction saying that you will 3 bet them with nothing is a LAG losing mentality. It is misplaced aggression, imho. In this case, I just see it as better to avoid this particular confrontation.

Heads up your approach has some merit. But there are 8 others at a table with you and each of them may be taking shots at you too. You can not fire back at all of them.
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