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Old 10-18-2005, 05:41 PM
TomBrooks TomBrooks is offline
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Default Re: cold calling with KQs

PF: Cold call good.

Flop: Call good

Turn: I like call, not raise. Very likely to be behind AK, or maybe AA or KK here.

River: Since prior aggressor checked second King - Bet - ya.
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:41 PM
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Hm, I would have agreed if we were OOP but now we arent. If a scare card comes we check behind. I am not convinced this is bad.
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: cold calling with KQs

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Hm, I would have agreed if we were OOP but now we arent. If a scare card comes we check behind. I am not convinced this is bad.

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so your assumption is that he always calls the flop raise and checks to us on the turn. needless to say, this is wrong.

when he has AA/KK/AK he is almost always going to 3-bet and lead the turn, and you will be forced to put in multiple bets on the flop with the losing hand, and you'll be unable to take a free turn card.
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:49 PM
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Yea that was bad thinking, he will probably [censored] up us somewhere. I concede [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:53 PM
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Yea that was bad thinking, he will probably [censored] up us somewhere. I concede [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img].

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Make sure you understand the reasoning for it, miles layed it out very nicely. Super, super important.
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Old 10-18-2005, 05:57 PM
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I thought he meant WA/WB, if thats what he meant I agree.
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:02 PM
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grunch

I hate paying three bets to see this flop, especially with only two other players. The 6% of the time that you hit your second nut club flush you're not getting the payout you need. Being in for two however, I would call the third as well, but play it cautiously as domination is a concern.

Flop...TPGK, backdoor straight draw vs pf raise and reraise...Hmmm? 9J gives you the nut straight, JQ you lose to any ace and JA = probable chop, Q gives others valuable redraws to beat your two pair. I'm not married to this hand at this point. But I'd call one bet.

Turn - At first I didn't like the raise, but the more I looked, the more I like the semi-bluff on the turn. Since the aggro 1st raiser just called, I suspect we have the best hand, but there's still some draws out there.

Flop - play looks good
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Old 10-18-2005, 07:08 PM
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I think you played this perfectly. NH
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