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vhuntd 10-18-2005 04:28 PM

cold calling with KQs
 
How's this look? first raiser is pretty agro and can get married to hands that he prolly shouldn't - i.e. calling down with AJ when there's a queen

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Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10.50 SB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP2 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, BB calls, MP2 calls.

River: (12.75 BB) K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP2 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, BB folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 14.75 BB

10-18-2005 04:33 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
Normally, the only non-pair I would be playing with after it's 3 to me is AKs, and then I would be capping with it. You said raiser-1 was aggro, is he TAGgy or LAGgy? Is raiser 2 aggro? If not, then you should surely fold when he 3-bets.

Webster 10-18-2005 04:33 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
I would not have colded called unless there were more in the hand. However - once you are in I would have called the reraise praying fora flush now.

THEN
I would have raised on the flop. After that you would be in control.

10-18-2005 04:34 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
Isolate him if he has a PFR over 8% or something. Otherwise fold. With that draw heavy board Im raising the flop and taking the lead for the entire hand.

milesdyson 10-18-2005 04:34 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
[ QUOTE ]
Normally, the only non-pair I would be playing with after it's 3 to me is AKs, and then I would be capping with it. You said raiser-1 was aggro, is he TAGgy or LAGgy? Is raiser 2 aggro? If not, then you should surely fold when he 3-bets.

[/ QUOTE ]
after coldcalling the first raise (which i think was bad), folding to the 3-bet would be really bad.

also to all you guys saying raise the flop - why??

vhuntd 10-18-2005 04:35 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
but noone is going anywhere with a draw - i can't protect so why don't i just raise the turn for value on a nonscary card?

Webster 10-18-2005 04:36 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
milesdyson - speaks the truth!

10-18-2005 04:40 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
I usually don't raise the turn here. If I am ahead of BB and MP2 I don't want to slow them down. A turn raise will also likely just shut down a hand like AA or AK and you end up doing the betting for them. Finally getting 3 bet really sucks b/c we have enough outs to continue. Am I too weak-tight?

10-18-2005 04:41 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
Raise for value before the stupid ace comes. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

SL__72 10-18-2005 04:42 PM

Re: cold calling with KQs
 
I 3bet that against a LAG preflop.

I think I'm calling both the flop and turn bets.


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