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Old 09-13-2005, 12:33 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a strong draw with KTs

What Entity is missing here is that the pot is getting pretty big and eliminating either player is not neccessarily bad. Check/raise and lead. If it's heads up on the river throw a bet out there. If it's three way on the turn, just check and call. If you get three bet, call down unless you improve to 2+pair or better or the turn gets checked through if you hit your king.

Facing the too loose button with 2 cold will fold A10, KJ, KQ, and possibly 710 or 7K.
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:39 PM
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Default Re: Flopping a strong draw with KTs

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What Entity is missing here is that the pot is getting pretty big and eliminating either player is not neccessarily bad. Check/raise and lead. If it's heads up on the river throw a bet out there. If it's three way on the turn, just check and call. If you get three bet, call down unless you improve to 2+pair or better or the turn gets checked through if you hit your king.

Facing the too loose button with 2 cold will fold A10, KJ, KQ, and possibly 710 or 7K.

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You're way off here.

1) Checkraising will NOT force Button to call two cold. He will call one bet at a time unless you get 3-bet, at which point he may fold, but then your hopes of winning UI are completely negated, as you're generally facing an overpair/set/bigger flush draw.

This is not a situation to be attempting to clean up outs when you don't know what outs are clean and are what not, in a shorthanded pot where you aren't likely to fold either player's range of hands.

Rob
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Old 09-13-2005, 12:41 PM
B Dids B Dids is offline
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Default Re: Flopping a strong draw with KTs

Real basic strat for me on this hand. "how can I get the most money in the pot". All of my value is in my flush draw, I'm not in love with my K.

Depending on the players, I might c/r, but not if I think anybody is folding. I think just calling here may be ok.
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Old 09-13-2005, 02:58 PM
Jake (The Snake) Jake (The Snake) is offline
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Default Re: Flopping a strong draw with KTs

I'm with Rob on the c/c here.

Don't forget about implied odds. It would be pretty sweet if we hit the flush and we can check bet call raise call call the turn.
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