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Old 07-12-2005, 10:02 AM
phlup phlup is offline
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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The Patriot Act is an unConstitutial violation of every right an American should hold dear.

BTW, name me one life it's saved.

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Name for me all the times your civil rights have been violated under the patriot act...

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Name for me all the times we've stopped a terrorist plot using pervisions from the patriot act?

And don't tell me they wouldn't have that sort of thing all over the media if they'd done it.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:15 AM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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The Patriot Act is an unConstitutial violation of every right an American should hold dear.

BTW, name me one life it's saved.

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Name for me all the times your civil rights have been violated under the patriot act...

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Name for me all the times we've stopped a terrorist plot using pervisions from the patriot act?

And don't tell me they wouldn't have that sort of thing all over the media if they'd done it.

[/ QUOTE ]They wouldn't, you can see why, right?
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Old 07-12-2005, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

Hmmm, let see. The U.S. has currently made more than 5000 arrests under the Patroit Act. Number of convictions? ZERO.

What would have really been helpful in possibly preventing the bombing attacks in London, was if the Chimpmeister and his cronies hadn't burned the UK's Al-Queda Mole, Amir Khan, for what turned out to be a useless bust in Afghanistan...
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:37 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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The UK is having problems tracking the terrorist cells that coused the recent bombings in part because they do not have the use of some of the procedures that the US does in the Patriot Act.

Many of the muslims the Brits were watching were totally surprised by the bombings. The ones they watched were not aware of the other cells planning these acts. Now the British are asking the US for some help from the US, because the US can use provisions in the Patriot Act to investigate cells that may have been in contact with the bombers.

The Patriot Act saves lives in the US.

Don't you forget it!

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Her Majestys Constables/MI5 and Special Branch say:

PWNED

The news may not have reached your side of the pond but arrests have been made allready today and suspects identified.
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:07 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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Her Majestys Constables/MI5 and Special Branch say:

PWNED

The news may not have reached your side of the pond but arrests have been made allready today and suspects identified.

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The idea is to prevent the various terrorist acts before they happen. Attentive citizens tipped off Scotland Yard - hardly cause for celebrating great police investigative work. With a Patriot type act, they may have caught them before 7/7.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:55 PM
ThaSaltCracka ThaSaltCracka is offline
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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Her Majestys Constables/MI5 and Special Branch say:

PWNED

The news may not have reached your side of the pond but arrests have been made allready today and suspects identified.

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The idea is to prevent the various terrorist acts before they happen. Attentive citizens tipped off Scotland Yard - hardly cause for celebrating great police investigative work. With a Patriot type act, they may have caught them before 7/7.

[/ QUOTE ]dude, stop it.
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Old 07-12-2005, 09:57 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

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The UK is having problems tracking the terrorist cells that coused the recent bombings in part because they do not have the use of some of the procedures that the US does in the Patriot Act.

Many of the muslims the Brits were watching were totally surprised by the bombings. The ones they watched were not aware of the other cells planning these acts. Now the British are asking the US for some help from the US, because the US can use provisions in the Patriot Act to investigate cells that may have been in contact with the bombers.

The Patriot Act saves lives in the US.

Don't you forget it!

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Her Majestys Constables/MI5 and Special Branch say:

PWNED

The news may not have reached your side of the pond but arrests have been made allready today and suspects identified.

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That is quite impressive. I was very suprised when I saw the news reports today.

very good news indeed.
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Old 07-12-2005, 11:40 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

Erm, we already know who the bombers were. So much for your theory.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:30 PM
HtotheNootch HtotheNootch is offline
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

Like I said. The brits already know how to deal with this kind of thing - better than the US even with its mighty Patriot Act.
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Old 07-13-2005, 03:39 PM
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Default Re: Lack of Patriot Act hurts the UK

None of our actual Patriots, the founding fathers or the football team members, would say that the Patriot Act is mighty.

In fact, our founding fathers might find its title rather ironic. The football team would wonder what ironic meant.
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