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#24
05-26-2005, 11:42 PM
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Re: Play along: interesting 99 hand
Thoughts still forthcoming.
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#cc3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks. Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>.... 
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#26
05-26-2005, 11:55 PM
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Re: Play along: interesting 99 hand
Nice move. On the off chance that you are ahead of MP this move has a good chance of making BB lay down a better, but not great, hand. It's an easy fold to a 3bet. This line gives you the best chance of winning the hand.
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#27
05-27-2005, 12:15 AM
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Re: Play along: interesting 99 hand
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Thoughts still forthcoming. Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]. <font color="#cc3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks. Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>.... [/ QUOTE ] I'm not sure I like it. What hands is MP betting that we can beat now, and how many made hands is he laying down to a raise that we want to fold? Also, how often are we getting a free showdown here, considering MP capped preflop and BB is still in the hand? I think folding can't be too far from correct here. I even think calling the turn gets us about the same chance of a free showdown as raising.
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#28
05-27-2005, 12:17 AM
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Re: Play along: interesting 99 hand
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I'm not sure I like it. What hands is MP betting that we can beat now, and how many made hands is he laying down to a raise that we want to fold? Also, how often are we getting a free showdown here, considering MP capped preflop and BB is still in the hand? I think folding can't be too far from correct here. I even think calling the turn gets us about the same chance of a free showdown as raising. [/ QUOTE ] jason_t: party 2/4 jason_t: no reads, only one orbit at table jason_t: mp opens, hero 3-bets on the button with 99, the bb calls, and mp caps jason_t: flop comes QT3r gaming mouse: fold jason_t: bb checks, mp checks, hero checks too gaming mouse: no jason_t: no to the check? gaming mouse: hmmmm gaming mouse: thinking.... gaming mouse: looks like a c/r or possibly AK gaming mouse: yea, check is fine gaming mouse: is good jason_t: turn card 7, rainbow complete jason_t: bb checks, mp bets, hero raises! gaming mouse: what is the pot when hero raises jason_t: 12 sb preflop and 1 bb on the turn jason_t: so 7 bb gaming mouse: 7:2 jason_t: and if he has AK, he's not folding so effectively 8 bb gaming mouse: betting that he has AK gaming mouse: right gaming mouse: 4:1 jason_t: well, hero is betting on two things here jason_t: hero betting villain has AK jason_t: and jason_t: that the BB will fold any better piece of the board gaming mouse: i think he will jason_t: that may be a hefty parlay i think, but there isn't a lot of time to think these things through gaming mouse: let's concentrate on the AK part jason_t: ok gaming mouse: it would also be a coup to get JJ to fold, and pretty likely jason_t: true gaming mouse: so really hero is betting on AK or JJ gaming mouse: but we'll discount the JJ since sometimes he calls down jason_t: right gaming mouse: so gaming mouse: TT - 3 gaming mouse: JJ - 6 gaming mouse: but call it 3 jason_t: sure gaming mouse: QQ - 3 gaming mouse: KK - 6 gaming mouse: AA - 6 gaming mouse: but AA and KK are very unlikely jason_t: agreed gaming mouse: lets discount them to 2 each jason_t: sounds good to me gaming mouse: AK - 16 gaming mouse: 32 total gaming mouse: 19 are good for hero gaming mouse: wow gaming mouse: easy, easy raise gaming mouse: even if discount for BB gaming mouse: who i think is very likely to fold jason_t: wow, awesome gaming mouse: nh
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#30
05-27-2005, 12:48 AM
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Re: Play along: interesting 99 hand
Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#cc3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#cc3333">MP caps</font>, Hero calls, BB calls. Flop: (12.50 SB) Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, MP checks, Hero checks. Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(3 players)</font> BB checks, <font color="#cc3333">MP bets</font>, <font color="#cc3333">Hero raises</font>, BB folds, MP calls. River: (10.25 BB) 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000ff">(2 players)</font> MP checks, Hero....
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