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Old 05-13-2005, 10:20 AM
gonores gonores is offline
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

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wouldn't the river go bet fold if they were cheating?

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Exactly what I thought
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:24 AM
imashyboi imashyboi is offline
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Calling it down to the river because of the pot size hoping that your hand is good? The pot is over 10BB's so you only have to be correct a percentage of the time to make this profitable. Sounds like a better play than folding thats for sure. Thanks
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:36 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Neither hand looks like too suspicious to me. Definitely not the second hand.
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Old 05-13-2005, 10:38 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

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wouldn't the river go bet fold if they were cheating?

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Exactly what I thought

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This thought did go through my mind, but if they did happen to be colluding (which i doubt) they are doing such an amateurish job that this important concept probably escaped them.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:10 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Haven't read the other replies, if they are colluding they suck at it.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:27 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Hand 1 is tough.

Hand 2 is weak. I'm seeing a showdown here unless the board puts another heart up or it's 2 cold to me somewhere.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:30 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

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After knowing the winning hands, we can argue that folding the AA on Hand 1 could be a mistake. Hand 2 however is a good fold. Your only about 2.5-1 favorite there and if a heart drops on the river you'll be force to fold anyways.

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Worst. Advice. Ever.
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Old 05-13-2005, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Peter...you are a much better player than this, and I don't think collusion is a factor here. You need to be the aggressor with these hands. Go down with the guns a'blazin.
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:21 PM
elindauer elindauer is offline
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Default This is not collusion

I can't believe people think this is collusion. If these guys are working together, they suck. You are getting tons of money in the pot with the best hand, and the "collusion team" is paying you off 2:1 with hands that dominate each other.

You think they planned to take you out on the turn when they were putting all that money in preflop, and it was just a coincidence that they ended up with flush draws in both hands? You're being paranoid. This is simply a figment of the increased aggression in the party 30. Why do they showdown their weak hands if they are colluding?

If you're unsure, send a report to party and let them look into it. I doubt they'll find anything.

Good luck.
Eric
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Old 05-13-2005, 12:22 PM
mach3 mach3 is offline
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Default Re: Cheating is somewhere here at 30/60 or i\'m just paranoid?

Hand 1 - looks like BB either has it or is making a play, I wouldn't be worried about the guy behind you.

Hand 2 - typical ram and jam flush/draw.

I think you played both weak.
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