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Old 05-08-2005, 01:07 PM
Martin Aigner Martin Aigner is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

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It might be a leak of mine, but I dont like to let people get away with stuff against me.

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I hope you got enough money, since this attitude can prove to be expensive.

Best regards

Martin Aigner
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:08 PM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

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Did you consider reraising pre-flop? what about pushing on the flop? if he is bluffing, those moves could get him to muck...


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LEAK!!! My multi-table mode just tells me to call and see what happens. *cough* LEAK *cough*

Ty for pointing that out.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:11 PM
Woolygimp Woolygimp is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

I frequently C/R TPTK, Sets, TPGK so I wouldn't necessarily put UTG+1 on a bad hand.
In my opinion your up against AJ, or QQ-AA a majority of the time.
You have to let this go...
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:23 PM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

In my opinion, even with your thoughts posted and read, I feel that he has a strong hand and he wants it paid off. This looks like you fell right into the trap. Also, about him raising quickly - first of all I don't like considering this very much as it could pretty much mean anything. Second of all, I look to myself. The times I do this is when I have decided my action beforehand. It is not likely that he has decided that he will checkraise bluff, and thus checks the flop. Either he has a genuine hand and decided he want more money than he's likely to get from a flop bet, or he hasn't but decided on a hunch that he should raise your flop bet. I think the former are more likely.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:24 PM
suited_ace suited_ace is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

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No im with you, I even muck JJ here.

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Old 05-08-2005, 01:29 PM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

But how can he check the flop with only one player to act behind him with the intension of check raising. Thats stupid, isnt it? That is why I thought he had nothing.
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Old 05-08-2005, 01:38 PM
ZebraAss ZebraAss is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

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No im with you, I even muck JJ here.


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That is nice that you feel that way but please refrain from doing so in the future. People post that in every single thread like a million times. All those posts do is end conversation which is exactly what I do not want to happen.

Argh! I don’t know why that makes me mad, but it does. PLEASE, stop saying things that have nothing to do with the situation at hand. If i folded pre flop, this thread would not exist, I would not learn what I did wrong, there would be the same old boring threads over and over again, nothing new would come up, no new Ideas, Nothing.

Please, Just stop.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:08 PM
Elektrik Elektrik is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

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But how can he check the flop with only one player to act behind him with the intension of check raising. Thats stupid, isnt it?

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Yes, it is. But then again, there's a reason these things are so beatable....Just because he checked on the flop, assuming you have no reads AND this is an average $55 SNG, means little, especially given your penalty if you are wrong.
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Old 05-08-2005, 02:24 PM
Scuba Chuck Scuba Chuck is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

Here's the first most glaring mistake:

Whenever you begin a sentence with the word "Why" it should ALWAYS end with a question mark. I see 5 mistakes in your post flop analysis!

Scuba
who thinks if you can define this player as a LAG, then yes, I like your line. Obvious dangers are those who don't value hands like QQ enough. Or those who overvalue hands like J8
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Old 05-08-2005, 03:20 PM
shejk shejk is offline
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Default Re: You are full of it, I call.

I played against a player who called preflop with kk, then called a reraise. Then he flopped top set, and check called the flop. Then he check called the turn, and then he raised the river.

I don't think this guy was afraid of giving a free card. Maybe he has AA with the A of the flush draw. Maybe he has hit a good hand and wants it to get payed off, even if he risks getting outdrawn.
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