Lev 2 hand reading

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And your opponants know this for certain?

If from your action preflop and on the flop, your opponants KNOW what you have, then maybe you have to vary your play or get a new account. A lot of players will call preflop with AQs or AJs or A2s. (please don't tell me the higher buyin players don't play bad, I read the posts on this site, including the one where Dr. Gammon folded to you about a million times in a row ITM)

Again, I'm not advocating making a move here, but you had stated that your opponants would know what you had after the flop and I don't think they can be sure you don't have the flush.

[adanthar]

I get why you did what you did but I'd have liked it about a million times more if the flop was two tone.

You can't draw on this flop (not even close, your implied odds are 0) and you can't bluff at it, so fold it.

edit: BTW, the other reason your call sucks is that you're sandwiched in between the two of them on top of it.

[Apathy]

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You seriously fold AQs here pf?

Anyhow, this hand is horribly played because you had no plan. On the flop, you are either ahead, drawing dead, or drawing to one out. That's where you make your decision. Calling the flop and folding a blank turn is silly. Did you expect him to check/fold the turn?

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I did have a plan for the hand, just a silly one. If I was HU I like my line of just calling the small bet better then raising, for the following reasons:

-If I am ahead this player will not bluff again on the turn OOP and will check-fold

-If I am behind I only lose the call money, as opposed to losing what I raised to find out if my hand was good. Against some players who will fire twice on a bluff or who are otherwise tricky this will not work, but this was not one of those players (he would make continuation bets though).

The other reason I just called in this hand was to see if the player behind me would overcall or raise. If the player behind me had dropped out and the PFR checked MHWG, and I get the pot on the turn.

This didn't seem as unlikely to me at the time as everyone is saying it should be. The button couldve limped called a big range of hands the totally missed and the PFR could have AK with a diamond or without. So I call 90 into a 300+ chip pot expecting to win it the times that the PFR has AK and the button has nothing.

Also if the button drops out and the PFR has me beat with a non diamond hand I will win the pot when a diamond hits 4th street 100% of the time.

To answer someone elses question in this thread, No the players are not good enough to know what I have, and I also forget mention that at any time I could be on a bluff, usually with a small missed pair since thats what I would be limping in. The majority of winning player in SNGs are pretty easy to read in lev 1-2 imo, especially when playing from early-mid positions. There are just so few hands that it is correct to play there.

[whynot?]

so i hear your input and maybe this is the difference between 33s and 109s but on a 33 the weak betting indicated would tell me that its a semibluff, a top pair or a monster. more often then not one of the first two.

[Unarmed]

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I did have a plan for the hand, just a silly one. If I was HU I like my line of just calling the small bet better then raising, for the following reasons:

-If I am ahead this player will not bluff again on the turn OOP and will check-fold


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I do this often on dry boards when I hold a mid-overpair with position against a PF raiser.

However, as the PF raiser with AA/KK/QQ in the same spot I will often bet flop check/raise turn against aggressive opponents...

I'd like to here other input on flat calling flops as opposed to raising them in this situation...

FWIW I fold this flop because too many things have to go right for me to win the hand.