What Hand did Teddy KGB have at the end of Rounders

[mostsmooth]

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this is not correct. the cards you see up in the air when it is slowed down are the board cards, not KGB's hole cards.

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this isnt correct either
the cards in the air are from the deck
but on the other topic, they look to be 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (what a coincidence)
the 8 is almost certainly a spade, which would make it hard to be the T

[mostsmooth]

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this is not correct. the cards you see up in the air when it is slowed down are the board cards, not KGB's hole cards.

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this isnt correct either
the cards in the air are from the deck
but on the other topic, they look to be 8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]9 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] (what a coincidence)
the 8 is almost certainly a spade, which would make it hard to be the T

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actually i lied, the 8 was almost certainly a CLUB, duh
ignore that man behind the curtain

[cpk]

It harts, dozint it? Your hopes....desht. Your dreams *shhhhhhhhht* down the focking drain. And your fate is sittink right besidez you.

[Vish]

KGB does say, before pushing the river, "That ace could not have helped you." The only way he could _know_ that was if he had two aces himself.

[AncientPC]

All your dreams . . . *kerplop*

[Maheha]

He had Three Kings...
IN his hand..

[Dan Rutter]

KGB was bluffing.

[That guy]

That hand was foreshadowed earlier in the Chan/Seidel hand.

In both hands, Chan/Damon flop the nut straight and check the turn to indicate they were still drawing.

So the point is just that Teddy KGB thought he was ahead in the hand when he wasn't and Chan/Damon trapped them by checking on the turn.

In the Chan/Seidel hand, Seidel moved all-in on the turn to defend against the draw out.

In the movie, KGB bets the pot to make Damon overpay to draw to 1 card.

when the blank hits, KGB moves in.

Net net, I think KGB had top pair or a set: AT TT 77 or 66 -- doesn't matter which.

[felson]

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In the Chan/Seidel hand, Seidel moved all-in on the turn to defend against the draw out.

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Seidel moved all-in on the river.

[frazwood]

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Preflop

MD (8 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 9 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]) raises to 200, KGB calls

Pot 400
Flop: 6 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] 7 [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] T [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB bets 2000, MD calls

Pot 4,400
Turn: 2 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB bets pot 4,400, MD calls

Pot 13,200
River: A [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]

MD checks, KGB all in, MD calls



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The question that I have always wondered about is: what did KGB think Mike had? He asks something to the effect of: "You're on a draw, Mike?". What hand would be an appropriate draw with that flop? It was a rainbow, so there is no flush draw. The only possibility is 4-5... and I just can't imagine a player of the supposed caliber of Mike drawing on the low side in no limit. It'd be too easy to make the straight and still get beat.

Of course, thinking about things like this means that I majorly need to get a life.