53o BB 5 way action and 1 bet to close the action.

[Brian]

Hi Gordon,

I think you're missing what I'm saying. The point is, even if you make a "good read", and 2 of your Ace outs aren't there, you may (and probably will) still have the same pot equity. Do you see why?

-Brian

[Gordon Scott]

I'm begining to. I played a hand I should have mucked was where my mistake (and most mistakes) started. Yes I played it bad because I didn't raise or check raise the flop for value.

Thanks

[illunious]

Good explanation Brian.

Gordon, I hope you understand why the aces shouldn't be subtracted from your outs count. If you don't, re-read Brians post, it's a good one.