Daily Hand Post: "Amazingly Standard" AQ?

[ihardlyknowher]

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You might think it's standard, but can you explain why? Probably not.

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PF Raise - no brainer.

On the flop you have two overcards in a decent size pot and were the pre-flop aggressor. You are definitely not folding, so it is best to bet to maximize your chances of winning. You want to try and knock out hands like Q5, Q3, KJ, KQ, QJ, someone holding a single [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (in case you catch the Ace[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], and maybe anybody holding a 2 or a 4 (although an argument could be may that you don't mind them calling b/c if they do pick up a gutshot on the turn, they probably won't have odds to chase).

On the turn, you are HU on a fairly textured board against an somewhat agressive opponent who has done nothing but call thus far. No reason to think your hand is not best, bet to protect it.

On the river, no draws got there except for the unlikely 98, so (as everyone else has pointed out) you check to him to induce a bluff.
If the board had been less textured, and my opponent was capable of folding a pair here, I would fire a 3rd barrel on the river.

[HolyBejeesus]

This type of opponent is somewhat aggressive and is precisely the type that I would think would bet a missed draw. That said, I don't think this hand is "boringly standard." I only call the bet because the pot is so large.

[Nick C]

I'm responding blind.

I think the diamond flush draw and wheel draw possibilities probably make it worth a call at the end (though even if I knew Villain had been chasing a flush, I'd be worried about that jack on the river). An aggression factor of 1 isn't really that passive for someone as loose as Villain, and he's probably had some success with river bluffs in the past.

When I call with ace-high on the river, I usually don't win. But I win often enough that I wonder sometimes if I should make such calls more frequently.

[Shillx]

When I call with ace-high on the river, I usually don't win.

Haha yeah I hope not. But we should win one time in five or so. Certainly enough to make it +EV as long as the villian is capable of bluffing. It is hard to analyze the exact EV of a call or fold since we don't know how often the villian will bluff. You pretty much have to use your best judgement when calling on the end and not let the outcome (if you lose) alter your decision making in the future. Just because you get shown something this time doesn't mean that it was a bad call.

Brad

[Klepton]

here's the convo i had with Jason online:

sickmanning: perfect
sickmanning: i do this about 55 times a day
sickmanning: results?
Jasonish712: irrelevant, right?
sickmanning: pretty much
sickmanning: get used to doing it a lot
Jasonish712: (MHIG, but it felt so dirty)
sickmanning: are you kidding
Jasonish712: no
sickmanning: if you don't know that liune, we might have problems
Jasonish712: okay, talk to me
sickmanning: that hand was amazingly standard
Jasonish712: oh my
Jasonish712: then i'm posting it
sickmanning: you're seriously sayign you don't do that?
Jasonish712: :-(
sickmanning: like thatw as the first time?
Jasonish712: like a virgin touched for the very first time
sickmanning: wow
Jasonish712: i guess i just don't get it :-(
sickmanning: omg
sickmanning: we need t talk thenm

[istewart]

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here's the convo i had with Jason online:

sickmanning: perfect
sickmanning: i do this about 55 times a day
sickmanning: results?
Jasonish712: irrelevant, right?
sickmanning: pretty much
sickmanning: get used to doing it a lot
Jasonish712: (MHIG, but it felt so dirty)
sickmanning: are you kidding
Jasonish712: no
sickmanning: if you don't know that liune, we might have problems
Jasonish712: okay, talk to me
sickmanning: that hand was amazingly standard
Jasonish712: oh my
Jasonish712: then i'm posting it
sickmanning: you're seriously sayign you don't do that?
Jasonish712: :-(
sickmanning: like thatw as the first time?
Jasonish712: like a virgin touched for the very first time
sickmanning: wow
Jasonish712: i guess i just don't get it :-(
sickmanning: omg
sickmanning: we need t talk thenm

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Absolutely pwned. Now all we need to do is teach him to like the Beatles...

[Luv2DriveTT]

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Absolutely pwned. Now all we need to do is teach him to like the Beatles...

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Can it be taught? Whats wrong with Jason...

PS: Just folded 77 to a raise when I was next to act, MP2 - no limpers. Flop comes 77. This thread s bad luck for me, but I like the river with an A and a good kicker anyway.

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[Klepton]

ok here are my thoughts on the hand, and keep in mind this is pretty much exactly how i think when playing 30-60 on party.

i raise MP1 with AQ, guy coldcalls. i now put him on any 2 cards.

flop is t35, i bet, guy calls. i put him on any 2 cards
turn is a 7. i bet, guy calls. now i put him on 2 cards higher than a 7, or a pair
river is a j, i check to induce a bet and will call instantly. he bets, i call.

sometimes he'll have a pair, most times he won't. i profit

[PokerSparky]

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sometimes he'll have a pair, most times he won't. i profit

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You really think he has no pair here over 50% of the time? I think a call is +EV, but I don't think he doesn't have a pair "most" of the time.

[thirddan]

you don't need to be right 50% of the time...only about 1 time in 8...