D'Agostino's short-handed advice

[Danenania]

I wonder which is better if you must choose one against a button steal: always 3-betting from BB when you play or always calling and checkraising flop when you play. Certainly depends on the button but it seems like the latter might offer a lot more leverage in many situations.

[baronzeus]

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baron = weak tight.

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[img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] its true [img]/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]

[baronzeus]

67% of hands or so is:

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q2s+,J2s+,T2s+,94s+,84s+,74s+,64s+,5 4s,A2o+,K2o+,Q4o+,J6o+,T6o+,96o+,86o+,76o


FWIW, i dont think my 3 handed open range is much off of this...

[billyjex]

lollerskates

my response wasn't really a shot at anybody. i almost mean, i think it'd be fun to watch some of this forum's best play jdags.

i don't get where the "you're an idiot" statement came from. stop being a nitty little internet "badass" prick.

[ALL1N]

Well not exactly in answer to your question, but assuming the button always bets the flop, the fact that you get to see the flop before you choose the action/line that best suits the situation makes calling vastly superior than always 3-betting. The top 25% of hands (or whatever you're supposing to 3-bet preflop) are simply not the top 25% after the flop, so why don't we wait until this huge turning point in the hand before deciding how we want to play it out?

[TTChamp]

I think that it is interesting that following this advice would make a very high percentage of raked pots.

Coincidence?

[ddubois]

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More appropriately, that was an idiotic post. There are lots of way to critique both the email and the responses, but that was not one of them.[/i]

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I think "i see him playing 50/100 or 100/200 2 or 3- handed on full tilt sometimes.. you high rollers should jump in." is a reasonable reply to "It goes down hill from here,
but this should clue you in on the fact that hes an idiot."

[oreogod]

Nothing like having a thread 2/3 full of bad blanket statements.

[Wynton]

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One thing that's pretty clear is that this guy is trying to write down to a beginner level audience. Obviously it is shallow and oversimplifies but I wouldn't look into much as a reflection of his knowledge or play.

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I think that's a valid point, but it doesn't really excuse such bad advice.

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this advice is not bad esp 3handed.

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Do you agree that A9 is about the cutoff for 3-betting from the small blind in a 3-handed game? Do you agree that one generally should not 3-bet from the bb? And do you also agree that 2/3 of the time you should raise from the button?

I thought all of this advice was off, but maybe I'm the one who's wrong.

[oreogod]

I think its pretty clear, especially with the wording, that the A9 situation...was not being written toward advance players. Trust me, Dags knows A9o is in the top 20 percent of hands and is a pretty easy SB 3bet most of the time (3-4 handed)

In fact, some of his blind advice goes against what Ive seen. He will 3bet a lot lower than A9o for sure...all the way down to A4o-A2o.