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Old 06-06-2005, 04:24 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

I just wanted to point out that some players will smooth call a 400-600 raise, although I'm not sure if that is a bad thing.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:26 PM
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

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I just wanted to point out that some players will smooth call a 400-600 raise, although I'm not sure if that is a bad thing.

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With position, I never mind a smooth call, although I'd of course prefer a fold with Q8o.
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:16 PM
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I might push but it would really depend on how I felt about the table. I think more often I would fold, although I strongly suspect that pushing is +EV, however in these situations bigger +EV spots should come up later.

Also at this point, your image really does come into effect, as the stealing you will do will often be just a few hands from now. They will remember if you have moved allin a lot in the last few hands.

Of course I've moved allin here many times, so it would really depend how I felt. I can guarantee that pushing is +EV here though, and it's possible I should be doing it every time, but I don't...
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Old 06-06-2005, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

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I am Skooma.

I remember this tourney well. You were playing so many pots when I had a playable hand I was not getting to play anything. I think I busted out 4 or 5.

I think this is a fold, but I play too tight with a big stack.

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I had no idea. I really felt like I needed to use my chip lead and be aggressive.

I think I've gotten a little too loose lately, which explains why I always get a big lead and then bust out 4th or 5th when people start feeling like calling.
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Old 06-06-2005, 06:39 PM
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

blinds are too small, big difference between 33 and 55 is lvl 5. in 33's this is push zone, but in 55's its only push zone if you have less than ~t1100. i muck here.


Andre
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Old 06-06-2005, 07:14 PM
Moonsugar Moonsugar is offline
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

I was the SB. You got some kind of line on my play????

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Old 06-06-2005, 07:25 PM
Cry Me A River Cry Me A River is offline
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

Is it just me, or is the prospect of playing a tournament against three 2+2'ers pretty much a nightmare scenario?
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Old 06-06-2005, 08:44 PM
Bigwig Bigwig is offline
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

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I was the SB. You got some kind of line on my play????

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[/ QUOTE ]What was your hand?
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:37 PM
Newt_Buggs Newt_Buggs is offline
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s

this is the problem with raising weak:

***** Hand History for Game 2165649713 *****
200/400 TourneyTexasHTGameTable (NL) (Tournament 12867491) - Mon Jun 06 18:17:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 16929 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 3: NewtBuggs (3725)
Seat 5: TURTLE_TOP (1300)
Seat 6: asian2003 (2305)
Seat 7: a11anon (985)
Seat 10: Mulperi (1685)
TURTLE_TOP posts small blind (100)
asian2003 posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to NewtBuggs [ Kd, Td ]
a11anon folds.
Mulperi folds.
NewtBuggs raises (400) to 400
TURTLE_TOP folds.
asian2003 raises (2000) to 2200
NewtBuggs folds.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 2700
NewtBuggs balance 3325, lost 400 (folded)
TURTLE_TOP balance 1200, lost 100 (folded)
asian2003 balance 2805, bet 2200, collected 2700, net +500
a11anon balance 985, didn't bet (folded)
Mulperi balance 1685, didn't bet (folded)

I only miniraised because I wanted a call, giving me position to take down a 900 chips pot. Its just that it makes you so vulnerable to what happened here.
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Old 06-06-2005, 10:43 PM
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Default Re: 5-handed calling standards at the 55s


It's fine, the large majority of opponents simply don't have the balls to make a move on you without a hand. Just because someone goes allin on you when you do this, doesn't mean its a bad play.
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