Rip this Boz

[bravos1]

*grunch*

JTo in EP 10 handed... insta-muck.

Why did you bet the flop? You basically only have a BDSD. The flop should be C/F.

Folding the turn was correct given the action so far. Why do you think you have 6 outs? It's very likely that you have zero outs! You are drawing dead to anyone with 2 pair or only a single Q. I would expect to see UTG+2 to turn over Q6-QJ or a garbage 2 pair like 64s. I don't see you winning this pot ... well like hardly ever unfortunately.

*Grunch*

Flop preflop. Problem solved.

[bravos1]

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what you're supposed to do is raise this preflop, bet every street, win with a rivered straight and complain about how weak-tight we all are.

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Arggg.. I always forget about this line!

[AlmightyJay]

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Should I have seen the river? I see 6 outs to improve but not strong enough to bet.

Party Poker 0.50/1.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">1 folds</font>, Hero calls, UTG+2 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.00 SB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+2 calls, SB folds, BB folds.

Turn: (3.00 BB) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+2 bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 4.00 BB.

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Fold preflop. Fold the flop. I think this flop bet is terrible. Bluffing into four players at these stakes is generally extremely -EV. The pot is tiny and you have absolutely nothing. Let it go.

[UATrewqaz]

My thoughts...

Playing JTo in that EP is probably not a good idea. JTs I can see.

Flop isn't that scary (rainbow, one overcard, you have a 3 connected backdoor straight draw) so I like the flop bet. If nobody has a Q or pocket pair you're probably taking down the pot here.

You get callers and give up on the hand, guy bets, you fold. Completely standard.

I don't see how you can justify putting money in possibly drawing dead against a pair of Q's with only 6 outs to overtake A high or K high.

Way too marginal of a situation, fold and save your bets for bigger and better things.

[Songwind]

*grunch*
I fold JTo preflop from UTG+1.

Flop: THere's an overcard to our hand that's very popular, meaning our already dirty pair outs are even less likely to be good, and we have a backdoor straight draw. I don't see the point in betting out, here. I check/fold.

Still nothing helping our hand on the turn, I play the same.

[imported_The Vibesman]

Don't like anything except the turn fold. I'm generally mucking this in this position. Do you have a reason for betting the flop?

[ajm36]

Fold PF--the hand plays differently from there.

[Buccaneer]

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Flop preflop. Problem solved.

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Is this a new play that I am unaware of?

[AlmightyJay]

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Flop preflop. Problem solved.

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Is this a new play that I am unaware of?

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No, but it's a fairly standard fold that you should be aware of.