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#11
11-24-2005, 07:19 AM
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Re: i call on the river
I would checkraise the turn and check-call the river. The checkraise serves 2 purposes. Its for value against the button and protection against UTG. You don't want UTG getting a cheap shot at his 6 outer or whatever he has (hopefully lower diamonds). I wouldn't be too worried about being behind to this lagtard button and if we are, we have a pretty good draw to catch up.
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#14
11-24-2005, 01:59 PM
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Re: i call on the river
No way I fold this river. He could have QJ, or maybe getting gutsy with JT or TT. As others have said, I bet this turn.
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#15
11-24-2005, 02:18 PM
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Re: i call on the river
I bet the turn, then bet/fold the river.
edit: I am stupid and did not check the stats. I would check call the river. The guy seems pretty aggro and might push hero off this hand with a worse one with a bet/fold. He does seem like the person who will bet with anything on the river. Maybe the OP can comment to this, but when I deal with guys like this I find that to be true.
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#16
11-24-2005, 02:23 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I call in SB here, but if i was running bad I may fold. After calling, I may go for check raise on the flop if the situation is right but AJ OOP with EP limper and LP raiser is poop, imo. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Are you serious? If you are running bad, why would you fold a hand this good? That's horrible advice. [/ QUOTE ] It isn't advice. I mentioned it to get advice on my play. FWIW, i don't think AJs is that good. Hero only beats 48 logical hand combinations. He is dominated by another 50. That it is suited makes me call and, of course, if button is a LAG, I'd re-raise. But I don't reccomend playing differently when you are loosing. I, however, do. I enter less hands. I see more showdowns. I 3-bet less. It's called tilt, and I'm not recommending it to anyone.
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#17
11-24-2005, 02:25 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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FWIW, i don't think AJs is that good. Hero only beats 48 logical hand combinations. He is dominated by another 50. [/ QUOTE ] What is your range for button here?
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#18
11-24-2005, 02:37 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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What is your range for button here? [/ QUOTE ] Villian raises the top 18% of his hands. Off the top of my head, I had villian raising only AT, KQ, KJ as worst hands when an UTG limped. Looking at my hand chart I see that that limits him to just the top 12%. So I'll throw in KT and A9s. In my book AJs is a top 6% hand. But hero is oop. I don't think a 3-bet is terrible or even bad nor do I think a cold call is bad. Like I said, I'd check raise a lot of flops. But to answer your question. Off the top of my head I had villian raising only KJ,KQ and AT that hero was ahead of. I now think that KTs and A9 suited are likely, perhaps QJs and KTo. Villian isn't good enough to raise suited connectors, but as a rule he may raise any suited ace. Much of my dilema comes from the limper. We know that button isn't stealing nor will a 3 bet isolate him. Cold calling and hoping for the chance to check raise a flop is solid, imo.
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#19
11-24-2005, 02:38 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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I think I call in SB here, but if i was running bad I may fold. [/ QUOTE ] Please dont post such horrible advice. BTW iDERG: lead the turn, I cant think of any situatuion where a 3-bet on a previous street that just gets called should get checked on the following street. Unless you are on a pure bluff and are planning to check/fold. There is just too much fold equity in the 3-bet, lead combo that you really shouldnt be three betting if you aren't going to lead.
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#20
11-24-2005, 03:14 PM
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Re: i call on the river
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Quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I think I call in SB here, but if i was running bad I may fold. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please dont post such horrible advice. [/ QUOTE ] I hate the snideness of this forum. Pokerbob is an experienced poster. Even if he thinks that this is actual advice, there is no way he is following it. I wouldn't post it to a newbie or someone whose posts I'm not familiar with. OP posts like ten hands a day. FWIW, i explained my comments above.
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