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So would you still bet a 239r flop?

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Housecalls is right IMO; I'd fold the preflop sans reads.

Kwazzie: I don't think we can check the turn behing the last aggressor on the flop with what looks like the best hand. IMO the flop bet is closer than the turn bet is.

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Tehe. Ninja edit just in time.

If I had seen him raise with overs I like the flop bet. I'd then bet\fold the turn UI HU.

But after the other donkeys call the flop bet, I'm not seeing a turn bet here when the Q falls.

EDIT to say: I not read good. Both blinds fold.
Turn is b\c, c\f.

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So would you still bet a 239r flop?

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Negative. Check fold there everytime.

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Turn is b\f.


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I almost definitely have 6 outs and some decent implied odds if I can c/f the river IU which I think I can.

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But after the other donkeys call the flop bet, I'm not seeing a turn bet here when the Q falls.

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Kwazzie, if the PFR can be any two cards 10+, then 64% of the hands here don't include a Q. We have no read saying MP3 could raise without the Q, but I don't think we slow down until the raise comes.

I'm interested in someone's thoughts about doing anything *other* than calling the turn and check/calling any non A or K or [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] river. I guess check/folding UI isn't so bad ... maybe it's better, but I don't like doing it.

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The guys a "Pooh Bah". What's the *surprise* response the OP wants to read?

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No surprise here, its not a trick question. I may be a pooh bah or whatever but I'm not as good of a player as that may lead one to believe.

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I feel my reads are better without any HUDS!


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So do I if I'm playing 3 tables or less and am really concentrating. At 6 tables when I'm just rushing to clear a bonus though I lose a lot of info and on this particular night was a bit distracted anyway.

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Turn is b\f.


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I almost definitely have 6 outs and some decent implied odds if I can c/f the river IU which I think I can.

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I was editing as you wrote this.

[Aaron W.]

I would have check-raised the flop.

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I would have check-raised the flop.

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When he calls, and you lead this Q [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] turn, did you buy fold equity to his raise? If not, then I'm not sure scaring over cards with a c/r on the flop works when an overcard you're trying to scare does hit .. at least I don't understand it yet. Maybe you don't lead a A/K/Q turn?