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09-07-2005, 10:55 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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[ QUOTE ] Check/call is MILES ahead of bet/fold. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is clearly wrong IMO. [/ QUOTE ] word, you are passing up alot of value by not betting out 
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#14
09-07-2005, 10:57 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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Check/call is MILES ahead of bet/fold. [/ QUOTE ] think how many times he checks thru w/ a mid pair, that he would have called you with. You are losing 1 BB everytime he checks thru. By betting and folding you lose 1 BB, the same amount you lose by check/calling.
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#15
09-07-2005, 11:11 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
When you bet/fold you don't lose 1 bet, you lose 11 bets.
Exaggerated, but you get the point. Folding a hand that has a decent chance of being ahead in a big pot is a DISASTER.
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#16
09-07-2005, 11:15 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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When you bet/fold you don't lose 1 bet, you lose 11 bets. Exaggerated, but you get the point. Folding a hand that has a decent chance of being ahead in a big pot is a DISASTER. [/ QUOTE ] If we're raised here, we're not good 1 in 11 times. Only thing I'd change would be a preflop 3-bet followed by a flop lead.
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#17
09-07-2005, 11:16 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
noone is really going to fold for 1 more bet having already put one in. The power of this check raise comes form leading the turn afterwards imo.
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#18
09-07-2005, 11:17 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Check/call is MILES ahead of bet/fold. [/ QUOTE ] I think this is clearly wrong IMO. [/ QUOTE ] word, you are passing up alot of value by not betting out [/ QUOTE ] Go easy on me I'm new - but you really missing a lot of value ? The way I see it the only hands you beat that will call are 7's and 9's - he can't have the other mid pairs because he would have trips. He is not going to call with a busted flush or straight or over cards. You will get raised by an A or straight, and called by a bigger pair. I guess I would rather gain some hand info with the check/call over the bet/fold - and I hate the bet/call line he took (of course).
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09-07-2005, 11:19 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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[ QUOTE ] When you bet/fold you don't lose 1 bet, you lose 11 bets. Exaggerated, but you get the point. Folding a hand that has a decent chance of being ahead in a big pot is a DISASTER. [/ QUOTE ] If we're raised here, we're not good 1 in 11 times. Only thing I'd change would be a preflop 3-bet followed by a flop lead. [/ QUOTE ] What do you (and others who think a river bet/fold is the proper course of action) believe was the range of hands UTG was betting into the PF raiser and calling the check-raiser with on the flop? How does that range change, if at all, when UTG calls the turn bet from the flop check-raiser?
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09-07-2005, 11:19 AM
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Re: Hand buddy said he \"played perfect\", I think it was all wrong
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When you bet/fold you don't lose 1 bet, you lose 11 bets. Exaggerated, but you get the point. Folding a hand that has a decent chance of being ahead in a big pot is a DISASTER. [/ QUOTE ] unless this guy is an idiot, he is not raising this river without an A or probably two pair A rag.
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