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Yeah, of course I know. Seen it all, done it all. My question is who actually raises. Put yourself in my spot, think about the preflop action...do you raise (knowing that it is very likely they will incorrectly fold). I aint talking about Sklansky bucks, I am talking about practical application. [/ QUOTE ] I would raise this every time same 2 bets as paying off easy laydown to 3 bet. I would hate to call this with a player behind me. |
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I raise this turn, but folding is better than calling as a 2nd option - if we're ahead you're letting all sorts of hands with outs call correctly. In practice I raise the turn.
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Can't say I'd do it till I was in the situation. Forizzle the turn raise is a good play.
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Obviously, you didn't call the turn to fold on the river UI.
If you are willing to put in two more BB in this pot, you have to raise the turn. If you are reraised, you know what to do. If not, you probably get a free river anyway. |
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The pot is large, and now it is your job to win it. That requires protecting your hand. Hence, raising the turn is the only way to play this. Calling and allowing cheap overcalls makes me throw up a little in my mouth.
Considering you played it this way, not betting the river makes me vomit all over my computer. |
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Considering you played it this way, not betting the river makes me vomit all over my computer. [/ QUOTE ] [img]/images/graemlins/confused.gif[/img] Why? Who's gonna call him that isn't beating him? [edit: and who's gonna fold that was beating him?] I agree with the turn raise, but the way he played it, I vote for a river check behind. |
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A 9 may call or a jack may fold. You may well have the best hand. Give them a chance to make a mistake. Obviously neither opponent has a king...
I agree that betting isn't necessarily automatic. I'm betting here when checked to just about every time, though, FWIW. Then again, I don't play this limit and was just mindlessly speculating. |
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Someone with a 9 may call. A jack very well may fold. Give them a chance to make a mistake. Obviously neither opponent has a king... [/ QUOTE ] I don't play the 15 game but I don't see it happening. If BB has a 9, he probably either fires the river again, or check/calls. If sb has a 9, he is not calling the turn to fold on the river. I don't think a J will fold after he sees everyone check to the last person to act. |
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I don't care what limit you play a J never folds. Ever. But I do agree that the check is quite weird after this particular action.
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Aarrggg I feel your pain and play it the same way, right down to the sick "I should raise this turn and if I don't raise it I should fold but errr... CALL" feeling.
I am so weak. Guy. |
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