98s on button play along

[Wally Weeks]

Well, you got what you wanted. So time to shoot out another bet. You've got the odds for the gutshot + top pair draw (albeit a weaker TP draw), not to mention the free two cards if checked to on the turn. So fire away and hope the 7 falls.

[Rev. Good Will]

man, these play along posts have been trainwrecks lately

bet, we barely have enough equity to do so, and perhaps we can take a free card on the turn

[benkath1]

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man, these play along posts have been trainwrecks lately

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What do you mean by that?

[Raza]

Looks like a bet. This is a decent sized pot worth getting aggressive over. Betting may fold everyone (unlikely), may fold people holding an 8 or 9, or redraw type hands if you make your straight (109, suited cards), and may get you a free card next round, though you should not necessarily take it.

[teajay]

A call seems reasonable [img]/images/graemlins/laugh.gif[/img]

[Rev. Good Will]

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man, these play along posts have been trainwrecks lately

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What do you mean by that?

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the last 'play alongs' that have been posted around here lately has had the brown-trout consensus was not what the action taken, leading to lots of arguing/name calling

[bozlax]

Yikes! I don't raise this preflop, but since you did, I think you have to follow that up with a semi-bluff bet when checked to on this flop.

You should expect to be check-raised by the guy holding 44, which you can call with your gutshot.

[teajay]

You can bet this flop for a couple reasons. It is quite raggy (coordinated, but with smaller cards). You raised PF because you wanted to take control, so go ahead and take control.

I think this is textbook semi-bluff with overcards and gutshot straight draw. If you do hit your straight, no one will uspect it, and you may get a lot of action.

Without the straight draw or if there were overs, I would check the flop. Does this sound bad?

[bozlax]

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I would say take the free card right now. If there's a chance you may win the pot right here, then bet. If there's a chance you may buy the pot on the turn if you bet now, then betting might be right. But given that they're loose passive, they probably like their hand enough to call your bet. Perhaps you can induce one to fold, but that's not enough IMO.

By checking here, this round is guaranteed to be +EV (unless you're drawing dead). If you bet, get called and the turn makes someone a hand and that person will throw in a "donkbet" (which is quite common with passives, who don't like their hand enough to c/r). If that happens, your bet is -EV.

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If you would have a bdfld, betting would be fine since you probably would have had odds to call a bet. You would also have more options for the rest of the hand.
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First, what exactly could you be drawing dead to? Second, with two cards to come and a gutshot to the nuts, you would have the odds to call two cold, so you're certainly going to call a raise to your bet.

[bozlax]

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the last 'play alongs' that have been posted around here lately has had the brown-trout consensus was not what the action taken, leading to lots of arguing/name calling

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Brown-trout consensus? And, isn't the point of posting hands to argue about them? The name-calling is just for fun.