who pays off?

[Altaslim]

Forgive my assumption, you're a bada**all the way. Just trying to cover for my embarassment of admitting weak-tightness. [img]/images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]

[DMBFan23]

nah you're right I'm a little bitch. just had to save some face.

[JrJordan]

Against a passive player I agree with this as well, bet/folding the turn is the best line. Against a more aggro/tricky player (such as the kinds you'd find at 10/20) I think the turn check is still a viable option. Yes, you give a flush/straight draw a free card. But, if you can induce a bluff from those draws UI on the river then it doesn't matter because you'll get 1BB in the pot either way.

Against an unknown such as this case, my traditional line is also a turn bet/fold. I was just curious what others thought about this possibility vs. a tricky.

[DMBFan23]

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Against a passive player I agree with this as well, bet/folding the turn is the best line. Against a more aggro/tricky player (such as the kinds you'd find at 10/20) I think the turn check is still a viable option. Yes, you give a flush/straight draw a free card. But, if you can induce a bluff from those draws UI on the river then it doesn't matter because you'll get 1BB in the pot either way.

Against an unknown such as this case, my traditional line is also a turn bet/fold. I was just curious what others thought about this possibility vs. a tricky.

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yeah the whole Stheif "get to showdown" principle might apply more and more versus the tricky ones, I will have to work on incorporating that when I get out of the 5/10 kiddie pool and start making moves

[JrJordan]

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Against a passive player I agree with this as well, bet/folding the turn is the best line. Against a more aggro/tricky player (such as the kinds you'd find at 10/20) I think the turn check is still a viable option. Yes, you give a flush/straight draw a free card. But, if you can induce a bluff from those draws UI on the river then it doesn't matter because you'll get 1BB in the pot either way.

Against an unknown such as this case, my traditional line is also a turn bet/fold. I was just curious what others thought about this possibility vs. a tricky.

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yeah the whole Stheif "get to showdown" principle might apply more and more versus the tricky ones, I will have to work on incorporating that when I get out of the 5/10 kiddie pool and start making moves

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Me too. At this rate it's gonna be awhile before I can swim in the deep end.

[bds]

Often I fold this and I think it is usually the correct play. But today I had a hand I played where I held AA. Flop was let's say 234 rainbow. Bet call. Turn 5 I bet he raises. River 6 - I bet he calls. The turn raiser had KQ off. I hadn't noticed that he was lunatic prior to that.