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#11
07-10-2005, 05:38 PM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
the point is here that you checked the turn to induce bets from hands that are worse than you.
you did this, but failed to raise the river. Why? His hand could not have improved, when the 5 paired (unless he is holding A5). In fact, it may make 2nd best hands more enticing. maybe he also figures you for a weak A and expects a split. The problem with the turn play is that you didn't follow through on the river. If your plan all along was to just call the river you should have bet the turn. 
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#12
07-10-2005, 06:47 PM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
AJ is not an isolation raise.
stop thinking about whether or not he has correct odds to draw or whether or not he will bluff a missed draw on the river as there is almost no place for that at 1/2. think about the fact that he will always call down a weak A and that he will usually call down a lesser pair.
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#13
07-10-2005, 07:14 PM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
what does FPS stand for?
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#14
07-11-2005, 02:24 AM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
Checking the turn to induce a bluff on the river, which you plan to raise, is weird.
With the way you played the turn the river play is correct, IMO. I actually don't hate this line, but I wouldn't usually take it against a relatively unknown opponent. If he was a tough player who will fold Tx, etc., it's a different story; those players seem to be the exception rather than the rule, however.
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#16
07-11-2005, 08:28 AM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
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AJ is not an isolation raise. [/ QUOTE ] Why not? I raised it to isolate the preflop limper from the rest of the field. Or does a hand need to have substandard raising value for it to be defined an 'isolation' raise? Thanks, mad
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#17
07-11-2005, 08:29 AM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
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[ QUOTE ] Why didn't you bet all streets? [/ QUOTE ] FPS? I guess at the time I was thinking, probably incorrectly, that he would fold any weak draw (to two pair or a gutshot for instance) because of the pot size. I was willing to risk the small pot to induce a bluff or loose call on the river. How bad is this thinking? Or is it good? [/ QUOTE ] Then why no river raise? Your line is no good IMO.
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#18
07-11-2005, 08:41 AM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
After reading your responses and thinking about the hand more, I think that I did misplay this hand.
THIS particular time it was good (Opponent had QJ), but in general I am missing a ton of value from common limping hands like Axs. These will probably call down all the way if I keep betting, and will definitely call a raise on the river if I make a fishy turn check. Also, many drawing opponents will probably take their free river card and check/fold when they miss, as opposed to bluffing as this opponent did. More missed value there. Thanks for the help. ~mad
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#19
07-11-2005, 09:17 AM
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Re: AJ isolation raise... how\'d I do?
the idea works best against villains who are both agg and capable of folding marginal hands. i highly doubt many at this level are like that.
if you did want to try to induce a bluff or a "value" bet, you have to raise.
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