AK .. lost

[@bsolute_luck]

bottomset: so what are you suggesting? fold?

[bottomset]

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bottomset: so what are you suggesting? fold?

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after the flop is capped and the turn is raised yes: fold right there, you are dead 75% of the time, 2-3outs 25% of the time tops

the turn lead is bad, as is the flop 3bet .. I'm not sure on the flop lead

but calling down after you get to the turn that way isn't good

[Duerig]

The converter messed something up, I can't tell how many people are in the hand at every street. That being said, after the pf 3 bet and the flop cap, I would check call the turn and river.

[TomBrooks]

FLOP: I like the flop 3bet for information.

TURN: I'm in call down mode here. I got the information on the flop that I'm beat. I'm just calling down for the remote possibility I'm not or I'm chopping or I might improve. I don't like your turn bet.

EDIT: After reading the thread and rereading the hand I like just calling down from the flop raise onward. I didn't realize at first that the Villian 3bet preflop. With that in mind and after the flop raise, I see more hands here that we are losing to than we are ahead of. We may just be chopping. I don't want to fold TPTK, but I don't want to add any more bets to it either after the flop bet is raised.

[pokerrookie]

I think he was referring to him stopping PF.

[deception5]

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after the flop is capped and the turn is raised yes: fold right there, you are dead 75% of the time, 2-3outs 25% of the time tops

the turn lead is bad, as is the flop 3bet .. I'm not sure on the flop lead

but calling down after you get to the turn that way isn't good

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I disagree, I think you need to call down here without a strong read. The pot on the turn is 9.25 BB. Assuming the opponent will put in 2 more bets (if he doesn't our odds are even better), we need to put in 2BB for the chance to win 11.25. In other words we only need to be good here 17% of the time.

There is too much of a chance that we are at least splitting here to fold, especially against an unknown where we might be ahead. So I'm calling down after the flop cap.

[TheWorstPlayer]

Seem like WA/WB to me. Check/call, check/call, bet/call.

[deception5]

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Seem like WA/WB to me. Check/call, check/call, bet/call.

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Except that there's another player in the hand on the flop. (looks like there might be someone all in as well?)